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    Wilson Chronosonic XVX




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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Just got this email from "Joe P" since I posted in his Wilson
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by mauidan View Post
    Just got this email from "Joe P" since I posted in his Wilson Chronosonis XVX thread that was sent from Mike:

    'You have been banned for the following reason:

    No reason was specified.

    Date the ban will be lifted: Never"
    He quoted a private message publicly. I had originally made a nice comment about Dave Wilson and he made a rude comment.

    It was long overdue.

    And frankly, I donít need to give a reason.


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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    I will have the opportunity to hear the XVX at the Midwest Debut event at Paragon on 7-November. That will be the third of this years Fall Music Series.
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX



    $329,000


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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
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    $329,000


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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    $329k ... ouch!

    Is that a replacement for Alexandria ?
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Having 5 different drivers must have provided quite the engineering challenge in designing the crossovers.
    They do look impressive.
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    $329k is just too much for my realm of reasonableness. Good for anyone that has a different sense of reason (and lots more dough), but thatís a ton of money.


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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    I had the opportunity to hear the XVX last evening and will return this evening for another go. This is one very impressive speaker. The SQ, design, build quality and execution are impeccable. Last evening was a very casual event where we Daryl Wilson played us several tracks and walked us through the new design. In addition to Daryl both his mother and Bill Peugh attended from Wilson Audio. Dan D'agostino was there, as was Karen Sumner President of Transparent and John Quick representing dCS.

    As you can imagine the XVX's were powered by Dan's Relentless amps. The source was both the Vivaldi stack and the Clearaudio Statement v2 turntable and all connected by Transparent Magnum Opus cabling. I will be returning this evening for the official event to hear them again.

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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    I had the opportunity to hear the XVX last evening and will return this evening for another go. This is one very impressive speaker. The SQ, design, build quality and execution are impeccable. Last evening was a very casual event where we Daryl Wilson played us several tracks and walked us through the new design. In addition to Daryl both his mother and Bill Peugh attended from Wilson Audio. Dan D'agostino was there, as was Karen Sumner President of Transparent and John Quick representing dCS.

    As you can imagine the XVX's were powered by Dan's Relentless amps. The source was both the Vivaldi stack and the Clearaudio Statement v2 turntable and all connected by Transparent Magnum Opus cabling. I will be returning this evening for the official event to hear them again.

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    Sounds like you likes them?

    After seeing them statically at RMAF, I look forward to hear them next week in Seattle.

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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Looking good Jim. Glad you enjoyed the demo.


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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    I believe they were powering the subsonic subs.

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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    The demo especially the Stravinsky track was probably the best I have heard. It has been so long since my epiphany with the MBL extremes occurred and they produce a very different soundstage from the XVX. it Would not Be fair to say which is better. It has been a long time since I have had speaker envy.

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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    I was so disappointed that I wasn't able to attend tonight's listening session at Paragon in Ann Arbor to hear the new Wilson's. Sadly, a client meeting at the last minute necessitated my stay here in Ohio. Perhaps they'll be at AXPONA 2020 in Chicago? (*wink, wink, nudge, nudge*)

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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    The demo especially the Stravinsky track was probably the best I have heard. It has been so long since my epiphany with the MBL extremes occurred and they produce a very different soundstage from the XVX. it Would not Be fair to say which is better. It has been a long time since I have had speaker envy.
    I love the soundstage of the MBLís, the best Iíve ever listened to, totally three dimensional. Plus the treble is so natural sounding. Amazing speakers.

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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    I had the opportunity to hear the XVX last evening and will return this evening for another go. This is one very impressive speaker. The SQ, design, build quality and execution are impeccable. Last evening was a very casual event where we Daryl Wilson played us several tracks and walked us through the new design. In addition to Daryl both his mother and Bill Peugh attended from Wilson Audio. Dan D'agostino was there, as was Karen Sumner President of Transparent and John Quick representing dCS.

    As you can imagine the XVX's were powered by Dan's Relentless amps. The source was both the Vivaldi stack and the Clearaudio Statement v2 turntable and all connected by Transparent Magnum Opus cabling. I will be returning this evening for the official event to hear them again.

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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    Did you have to suffer through a session listening to a turntable?
    Just one track!
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    Just one track!
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    Did you have to suffer through a session listening to a turntable?
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Looks like TAS has chosen the XVX as their Product of the Year for 2020. Congrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    Looks like TAS has chosen the XVX as their Product of the Year for 2020. Congrats.
    When are you "upgrading" Jim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    When are you "upgrading" Jim?
    Nope. I only have speaker envy for two speakers the XVX and the MBL extreme's. Fortunately they are both out of my purchasing comfort zone
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    Nope. I only have speaker envy for two speakers the XVX and the MBL extreme's. Fortunately they are both out of my purchasing comfort zone
    I have listened to the Alexandria many times but have not had the pleasure of XVX or the MBL extremes. But I will say this, you are in a very good place already Jim. There is no such thing as the best, the best never rest. Today it is XVX, tomorrow it will be another version.
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    I have listened to the Alexandria many times but have not had the pleasure of XVX or the MBL extremes. But I will say this, you are in a very good place already Jim. There is no such thing as the best, the best never rest. Today it is XVX, tomorrow it will be another version.
    Serge. You are absolutely correct, there is no best and that ambiguous target will continue to move. There are many really good to great speakers that I could easily live with. I am not going to spend money just for a bit of change as I am very happy with my set-up. I am sure that some could offer SQ improvements but the two that I mentioned in my previous post are the only ones I have heard that have both the SQ and esthetics that make me really take notice. Also as noted above those two speakers are at a price point that cross a arbitrary line in the sand for me. In addition, to get the best from either of those speakers I would have to move out of my two channel room into one of the large rooms in our home. That would also increase the budget to better prep those spaces.
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Jim - has a lot changed? For example, has the tweeter changed from your model to the current models?
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    The XVX is a complete overall and an amazing speaker to listen to for that style of speaker.

    High coin though and unless your super flush hard pill to swallow when you already have a great setup and still have room to make some significantly lower cost changes for improvement gains.


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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Jim - has a lot changed? For example, has the tweeter changed from your model to the current models?
    Mike, there are many differences between the XVX and my X2 Series 2. Additional drivers, different drivers, difference materials, more adjustment capability, etc.

    The change in tweeters first appeared on the XLF's and I actually prefer my hard dome as compared to soft dome on the XLF's. I know there were other changes that make the XLF a overall better speaker than my Alexandria's but in my mind that tweeter was not one of them.
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    I would love to trade in My Alexx's for a pair of XVX but I think with an upstairs listening room I'm not eager to put that much weight upstairs. Others have done it for sure .. I'm just a little nervous and realistic as well about the limitations of my room and that I may never fully realize the capabilities of that speaker without serious work to the room.

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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by gadawg View Post
    I would love to trade in My Alexx's for a pair of XVX but I think with an upstairs listening room I'm not eager to put that much weight upstairs. Others have done it for sure .. I'm just a little nervous and realistic as well about the limitations of my room and that I may never fully realize the capabilities of that speaker without serious work to the room.

    George
    What size room are we talking? I had Alexia in 16x30 room and they filled it with bass and big sound effortlessly. I listened to Alexandrias in a huge showroom that was easily 50x70 maybe and they also effortlessly filled that big room. XVX need room to breathe or it will be like driving a Ferrari in mud.
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    What size room are we talking? I had Alexia in 16x30 room and they filled it with bass and big sound effortlessly. I listened to Alexandrias in a huge showroom that was easily 50x70 maybe and they also effortlessly filled that big room. XVX need room to breathe or it will be like driving a Ferrari in mud.
    The room is 20x24 and is plenty big enough dimension wise per the guys at Wilson ... but with it being a second floor I'm concerned that without re-inforcing the floor I could be in for real problems down the road as the XVX weighs in at 685 pounds per channel. Talked to a structural engineer and would cost approx $20k to do the work on the floor but again with it being the second floor and not cement I'm going to be challenged in the bass dept much like I am with the Alexx which uses the same basic woofers in a slightly smaller enclosure. Alexx is wonderful at any rate but can't help but wonder if I should build a new house to accommodate the XVX! :-)

    What a crazy hobby!

    George
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by gadawg View Post
    The room is 20x24 and is plenty big enough dimension wise per the guys at Wilson ... but with it being a second floor I'm concerned that without re-inforcing the floor I could be in for real problems down the road as the XVX weighs in at 685 pounds per channel. Talked to a structural engineer and would cost approx $20k to do the work on the floor but again with it being the second floor and not cement I'm going to be challenged in the bass dept much like I am with the Alexx which uses the same basic woofers in a slightly smaller enclosure. Alexx is wonderful at any rate but can't help but wonder if I should build a new house to accommodate the XVX! :-)

    What a crazy hobby!

    George
    Yes George! Building a new house for the XVX is definitely the way to go!

    Don't waste $20k on floor reinforcement as there is also the WAMM Master Chronosonic that may start the "new itch" once the XVX novelty factor wears off.

    In all seriousness, the 20x24 sounds like a big enough room to let the XVX breathe and especially if Wilson thinks it is ok. As far as 685 lb, imagine 4, 175 lb guys standing together in each corner of the room. If you think that will collapse your ceiling, you should have a serious talk with your architect that planned your house...
    Serge

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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    By the way, I am listening to a pair of 2 way Harbeth 30.2 in a 30x30 room and my PrimaLuna amp is in Triode mode at 30w max, maybe putting out 10w at most. The music effortlessly fills the room... Normal, listening volume with 65-70dB range. So towering speakers capable of filling a chamber music hall is fun but a total overkill. Yes, I know what dynamic range is and all about the gut punching, eye flinching, rectum puckering BASS. That is great if that is how one listens all the time. I don't
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    Yes George! Building a new house for the XVX is definitely the way to go!

    Don't waste $20k on floor reinforcement as there is also the WAMM Master Chronosonic that may start the "new itch" once the XVX novelty factor wears off.

    In all seriousness, the 20x24 sounds like a big enough room to let the XVX breathe and especially if Wilson thinks it is ok. As far as 685 lb, imagine 4, 175 lb guys standing together in each corner of the room. If you think that will collapse your ceiling, you should have a serious talk with your architect that planned your house...
    It wasnít so much about collapsing the house but having that kind of weight in such a concentrated area could cause issues with floor sag down the road Iím told with any residential construction ... And it could just be the engineer being conservative as well. I certainly have no experience there and itís new construction so your guess is as good as mine.

    George
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    VPI Avenger Plus w/ Transfiguration Proteus/VTL TP6.5
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    Re: Wilson Chronosonic XVX

    Quote Originally Posted by gadawg View Post
    It wasnít so much about collapsing the house but having that kind of weight in such a concentrated area could cause issues with floor sag down the road Iím told with any residential construction ... And it could just be the engineer being conservative as well. I certainly have no experience there and itís new construction so your guess is as good as mine.

    George
    George, I did custom build a home. It was a rather complex and large project. I did support certain sections with extra steel I-Beams both horizontally and vertically for things I had in mind. It was obviously easy to do while it was being built. There are codes however and minimal floor ratings that the typical floor joist will withstand. Off the top of my head I don't recall and it will vary because there are variables. Was it built with 2 x 4' or 2 x 6's and are the joist 12, 16 or 24 inches apart? It all makes a big difference.

    I do not see 600 lb of weight being a problem. Some folks run into problems when they want to set up large aquariums with over 120 gallons on floors that are suspended. That can be a problem since they can easily exceed 1000 lb of very concentrated weight and perhaps start to sag the floor.

    There are people that weigh over 600 lb for crying out loud. I saw plenty of them during my years in the health industry. Are they not allowed to be upstairs?
    Serge

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    I don't think they can get upstairs,

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