Wilson Chronosonic XVX

still-one said:
Nope. I only have speaker envy for two speakers the XVX and the MBL extreme's. Fortunately they are both out of my purchasing comfort zone
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I have listened to the Alexandria many times but have not had the pleasure of XVX or the MBL extremes. But I will say this, you are in a very good place already Jim. There is no such thing as the best, the best never rest. :D Today it is XVX, tomorrow it will be another version.
 
TheOctopus said:
I have listened to the Alexandria many times but have not had the pleasure of XVX or the MBL extremes. But I will say this, you are in a very good place already Jim. There is no such thing as the best, the best never rest. :D Today it is XVX, tomorrow it will be another version.
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Serge. You are absolutely correct, there is no best and that ambiguous target will continue to move. There are many really good to great speakers that I could easily live with. I am not going to spend money just for a bit of change as I am very happy with my set-up. I am sure that some could offer SQ improvements but the two that I mentioned in my previous post are the only ones I have heard that have both the SQ and esthetics that make me really take notice. Also as noted above those two speakers are at a price point that cross a arbitrary line in the sand for me. In addition, to get the best from either of those speakers I would have to move out of my two channel room into one of the large rooms in our home. That would also increase the budget to better prep those spaces.
 
Jim - has a lot changed? For example, has the tweeter changed from your model to the current models?
 
The XVX is a complete overall and an amazing speaker to listen to for that style of speaker.

High coin though and unless your super flush hard pill to swallow when you already have a great setup and still have room to make some significantly lower cost changes for improvement gains.


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Mike said:
Jim - has a lot changed? For example, has the tweeter changed from your model to the current models?
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Mike, there are many differences between the XVX and my X2 Series 2. Additional drivers, different drivers, difference materials, more adjustment capability, etc.

The change in tweeters first appeared on the XLF's and I actually prefer my hard dome as compared to soft dome on the XLF's. I know there were other changes that make the XLF a overall better speaker than my Alexandria's but in my mind that tweeter was not one of them.
 
I would love to trade in My Alexx's for a pair of XVX but I think with an upstairs listening room I'm not eager to put that much weight upstairs. Others have done it for sure .. I'm just a little nervous and realistic as well about the limitations of my room and that I may never fully realize the capabilities of that speaker without serious work to the room.

George
 
gadawg said:
I would love to trade in My Alexx's for a pair of XVX but I think with an upstairs listening room I'm not eager to put that much weight upstairs. Others have done it for sure .. I'm just a little nervous and realistic as well about the limitations of my room and that I may never fully realize the capabilities of that speaker without serious work to the room.

George
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What size room are we talking? I had Alexia in 16x30 room and they filled it with bass and big sound effortlessly. I listened to Alexandrias in a huge showroom that was easily 50x70 maybe and they also effortlessly filled that big room. XVX need room to breathe or it will be like driving a Ferrari in mud.
 
TheOctopus said:
What size room are we talking? I had Alexia in 16x30 room and they filled it with bass and big sound effortlessly. I listened to Alexandrias in a huge showroom that was easily 50x70 maybe and they also effortlessly filled that big room. XVX need room to breathe or it will be like driving a Ferrari in mud.
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The room is 20x24 and is plenty big enough dimension wise per the guys at Wilson ... but with it being a second floor I'm concerned that without re-inforcing the floor I could be in for real problems down the road as the XVX weighs in at 685 pounds per channel. Talked to a structural engineer and would cost approx $20k to do the work on the floor but again with it being the second floor and not cement I'm going to be challenged in the bass dept much like I am with the Alexx which uses the same basic woofers in a slightly smaller enclosure. Alexx is wonderful at any rate but can't help but wonder if I should build a new house to accommodate the XVX! :-)

What a crazy hobby!

George
 
gadawg said:
The room is 20x24 and is plenty big enough dimension wise per the guys at Wilson ... but with it being a second floor I'm concerned that without re-inforcing the floor I could be in for real problems down the road as the XVX weighs in at 685 pounds per channel. Talked to a structural engineer and would cost approx $20k to do the work on the floor but again with it being the second floor and not cement I'm going to be challenged in the bass dept much like I am with the Alexx which uses the same basic woofers in a slightly smaller enclosure. Alexx is wonderful at any rate but can't help but wonder if I should build a new house to accommodate the XVX! :-)

What a crazy hobby!

George
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Yes George! Building a new house for the XVX is definitely the way to go!

Don't waste $20k on floor reinforcement as there is also the WAMM Master Chronosonic that may start the "new itch" once the XVX novelty factor wears off.

In all seriousness, the 20x24 sounds like a big enough room to let the XVX breathe and especially if Wilson thinks it is ok. As far as 685 lb, imagine 4, 175 lb guys standing together in each corner of the room. If you think that will collapse your ceiling, you should have a serious talk with your architect that planned your house...
 
By the way, I am listening to a pair of 2 way Harbeth 30.2 in a 30x30 room and my PrimaLuna amp is in Triode mode at 30w max, maybe putting out 10w at most. The music effortlessly fills the room... Normal, listening volume with 65-70dB range. So towering speakers capable of filling a chamber music hall is fun but a total overkill. Yes, I know what dynamic range is and all about the gut punching, eye flinching, rectum puckering BASS. That is great if that is how one listens all the time. I don't
 
TheOctopus said:
Yes George! Building a new house for the XVX is definitely the way to go!

Don't waste $20k on floor reinforcement as there is also the WAMM Master Chronosonic that may start the "new itch" once the XVX novelty factor wears off.

In all seriousness, the 20x24 sounds like a big enough room to let the XVX breathe and especially if Wilson thinks it is ok. As far as 685 lb, imagine 4, 175 lb guys standing together in each corner of the room. If you think that will collapse your ceiling, you should have a serious talk with your architect that planned your house...
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It wasn’t so much about collapsing the house but having that kind of weight in such a concentrated area could cause issues with floor sag down the road I’m told with any residential construction ... And it could just be the engineer being conservative as well. I certainly have no experience there and it’s new construction so your guess is as good as mine.

George
 
gadawg said:
It wasn’t so much about collapsing the house but having that kind of weight in such a concentrated area could cause issues with floor sag down the road I’m told with any residential construction ... And it could just be the engineer being conservative as well. I certainly have no experience there and it’s new construction so your guess is as good as mine.

George
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George, I did custom build a home. It was a rather complex and large project. I did support certain sections with extra steel I-Beams both horizontally and vertically for things I had in mind. It was obviously easy to do while it was being built. There are codes however and minimal floor ratings that the typical floor joist will withstand. Off the top of my head I don't recall and it will vary because there are variables. Was it built with 2 x 4' or 2 x 6's and are the joist 12, 16 or 24 inches apart? It all makes a big difference.

I do not see 600 lb of weight being a problem. Some folks run into problems when they want to set up large aquariums with over 120 gallons on floors that are suspended. That can be a problem since they can easily exceed 1000 lb of very concentrated weight and perhaps start to sag the floor.

There are people that weigh over 600 lb for crying out loud. I saw plenty of them during my years in the health industry. Are they not allowed to be upstairs? :)
 
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