I hope so. As soon as I can sell my Q3's and M3's I'll place my order!
Whispers of a Magico M9 Coming Soon?
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I hope so. As soon as I can sell my Q3's and M3's I'll place my order!
You should change your handle to MetaEmotional. Calm down and think about what I'm saying.
Bart001
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The move to less-power-hungry designs is welcomed by me! As you say, opens up the possibility of many more amplifiers -- many more brands that just don't address the 'high current' market if that's a term.
Maybe so. But I don't see the amplifier options of suitable pedigree open up for M9. What mightn' be a good amp pairing with M6 mightn' be a good pairing with M9 either. Probably only a handful of amps out there which would be on your short list.
Bart001
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I thought of that, but finding one that had Grateful Dead, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, the Who and Led Zep in their repertoire proved nigh impossible. And all were pretty weak on Coltrane and Miles as well.
Phishphan
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I’d pay 750k to have Jerry back for a private concert.
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There’s been a lot of questions on why the speaker terminals are so high and about connectivity.
First, the binding posts are also high on the Q7 Mk2. Second, the 3-way passive crossover for the tweeter, midrange and mid-bass drivers sits directly behind the tweeter and midrange which allows for the shortest cabling distance to these drivers specifically.
Lastly, from a connectivity standpoint, you only need one set of outputs (XLR for example) from the preamp (or DAC with VC) to the all analog MXO. From the MXO, you have four XLR outputs to the amps.
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First, the binding posts are also high on the Q7 Mk2. Second, the 3-way passive crossover for the tweeter, midrange and mid-bass drivers sits directly behind the tweeter and midrange which allows for the shortest cabling distance to these drivers specifically.
Lastly, from a connectivity standpoint, you only need one set of outputs (XLR for example) from the preamp (or DAC with VC) to the all analog MXO. From the MXO, you have four XLR outputs to the amps.
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Agreed Bill and I felt the same way about the WAMM Chronosonic. Anyway, the point is, with all due respect, and I think you’ll agree, the customer who would typically buy WAMM Chronosonics or Magico M9’s is not hanging around on forums, especially those forums where they think they know better than the designer. For example, my customer who purchased the $600K MBL Xtreme Ref System (speakers, amp, preamp, cables, etc.) wouldn’t be caught dead on a forum. So, the Magico M9’s and WAMM’s of the world aren’t targeted at regular folks like us, but at those Fortune 500 CEO’s, very successful entrepreneurs, entertainers and so on.
One can peruse through the Proxy’s of public companies and it will tell you some very revealing information about compensation. $12 million/year plus bonuses and stock options suddenly becomes common.
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Well you can’t drive three Aston Martin DB11's at one time, but you can listen to two M9’s at once.
That's true. But good luck getting a pair of M9's to go 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. My insurance underwriter had a pink fit in agreeing to M3's going on my home and contents insurance policy. I've a pretty good idea how that discussion would turn at the first mention of an upgrade to M9! Happy to wait until the M9 trickle-down tech finds its way into M3Mk2.
the professor
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3.7 seconds is not close to SOTA - that's your problem. Apples and Oranges even in different categories. The M9 is SOTA. SOTA cars are way higher priced. But again - other than the corvette which is a loss leader - are way above that in cost!
I have NOT heard it - it might sound like Sh!t. I have not been a fan of Magicos other than the M series and now the A series for the money. But at least it's trying to be the best. Not middle the of the road (no pun intended) as the Aston. The SOTA Aston would be millions.
3.7 seconds is not close to SOTA - that's your problem. Apples and Oranges even in different categories. The M9 is SOTA. SOTA cars are way higher priced. But again - other than the corvette which is a loss leader - are way above that in cost!
I have NOT heard it - it might sound like Sh!t. I have not been a fan of Magicos other than the M series and now the A series for the money. But at least it's trying to be the best. Not middle the of the road (no pun intended) as the Aston. The SOTA Aston would be millions.
The folks that own M9’s, Rembrandt and Picasso, Stradivarius and Harry Winston usually have a high value Homeowners Insurance Policy with Chubb or AIG. These companies are used to underwriting high value electronics, fine arts, musical instruments and jewelry. All in a day’s work.
Ken
Hi Mike,
I think describing the Magico M9’s as metal speaker cones and cabinet is not very accurate. While the cones and cabinets do have a very strong but lightweight aluminum honeycomb core, the cone material consists of an inside and outside layer of carbon nanotubes/graphene and the cabinet consists of an inside and outside layer of carbon fiber.
The M9’s speaker cone design is state-of-the-art, which enables the cones to move in an entirely pistonic fashion and produce extremely low distortion levels. I don’t see how you could place the Evolution Acoustics MM7’s 11” and 15” treated paper cones in the same category from an engineering standpoint. Time marches on and so does technology.
Best,
Ken
The skin and driver technology between the M9 and M3 seems so radically different, that I don't see how there could be an M3 Mk2. I see a new line with a new letter designation like R, X etc. Or there could be an M4, M5 with this trickle down. Of course, the M3 and M2 are pretty radically different too in terms of cabinet construction and bracing, so who knows.
I do find it interesting that Magico introduces new tech at unexpected intervals and almost without regard to model designation or size of speaker. This approach keeps everything very fresh and people guessing. Simply wild.
Peter, I agree. There is so much here to digest. I’m really interested in the all analog MXO, connectivity, and dreaming of amp pairings. A pair of Boulder 2160’s comes to mind.
Could I ever afford a pair myself? No. But I know customers who could buy them and two stereo/two mono-one stereo or four mono amps and not miss a beat. Also dreaming of the room for these. 15 foot ceilings don’t seem out of the question! 12 foot would be good too. Thinking 25 x 35 would be nice. Could go bigger too. But bass adjustability is so huge to have.
When you compare them to the Magico M6 (“mini”), they likely can scale to concert levels and compress some very large rooms.
Careful Mike, depending on wire choice, you'll be paying for an extra four feet on each side to reach the terminals. I doubt these customers will mind.
Dave
Hi Peter,
I do expect to see an update of the M3’s before too long with trickle down technology from the M9’s, including carbon/graphene sandwich midrange and woofer cones with aluminum honeycomb core, and carbon fiber sandwich monocoque cabinet with aluminum honeycomb core. The big question is, will the new speaker have active or passive bass? I guess time will tell.
Ken