What Makes a Speaker "Great" ?

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Too bad
Did want to start nothing bad here
We are all good people
With good intentions
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Wow a banning and I missed it!!!! Is that the first one??? Lol
Only design flaw I see in raidho, and all manufacturers are guilty of this, is they forgot to send me a free pair to test :disbelief:
 
After pondering the title of this thread and after reading thru peoples responses.

I think I've changed my point of view. I started out thinking a "Great" speaker was the end all ultimate speaker for somebodies taste and way of listening.

I think now what I think what classifies a speaker as a "great" speaker is whatever speaker allows the listener to enjoy the music. Some people, for example my wife, really could care less about anything but the basic melody or beat and the words sang/said. She appreciates my stereo no more than her car stereo so for her a great speaker is different than mine. And a LOT cheaper as she reminds me every so often. Totally in a friendly way but still a harassment. :)

I've said it before but I'll repeat myself. There are systems out there that I totally enjoy the music just as much as the system I have now at a tenth the price. The rest of my extravagance in my system is a fun hobby of trying to achieve a constantly better sounding system. But better doesn't mean I enjoy the music more.

I guess what im trying to say is --- There are "great" speakers at every price point.
 
the professor said:
After pondering the title of this thread and after reading thru peoples responses.

I think I've changed my point of view. I started out thinking a "Great" speaker was the end all ultimate speaker for somebodies taste and way of listening.

I think now what I think what classifies a speaker as a "great" speaker is whatever speaker allows the listener to enjoy the music. Some people, for example my wife, really could care less about anything but the basic melody or beat and the words sang/said. She appreciates my stereo no more than her car stereo so for her a great speaker is different than mine. And a LOT cheaper as she reminds me every so often. Totally in a friendly way but still a harassment. :)

I've said it before but I'll repeat myself. There are systems out there that I totally enjoy the music just as much as the system I have now at a tenth the price. The rest of my extravagance in my system is a fun hobby of trying to achieve a constantly better sounding system. But better doesn't mean I enjoy the music more.

I guess what im trying to say is --- There are "great" speakers at every price point.
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I agree jock !!! That is the best post in this thread.
I often say that I like to change gear and have some choices , but not necessarily better gear just different. Keeps me interested . I mean I can only listen to the same album on the same equip so many times before I need some change. Except Maria Muldaur / self titled album and Joni Mitchell blue I can hear on anything and enjoy em everyday.
 
Chr. R. said:
Raidho C 4.1

Raidho-C4-03(2).jpg
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Looks like a tall speaker to me. ... => http://www.raidho.dk/SEEEMS.asp?id=1284

- Narrow baffle is good; less frontal contoured distortion. ...Good on and off axis dispersion.
- Tall (2010 mm or almost 80") is good; wide spread (height) of the soundstage.
- D'appolito speaker array; I like. ...Point source even for a tall speaker.
- Because of its height it probably demands careful positioning; in relation to the floor and ceiling.
- The white drivers; personally I prefer black.
- Nice strong solid base. ...With adjustable spikes.
- The two ports (below and above), with integral front grilles; different, and I wonder what their effect is exactly.
{Reminds me the Krell Reference Subwoofer.}
...Like free flowing port wind turbulence and all that jazz. Was it calculated, measured, and integrated with a specific benefit?
...I'm dying to know ....

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Mike, the poster of the above quote, Chr. R., should be reinstated with his membership activation status and privilege.
He shouldn't have been banned in the first place. ...In my sincere and honest opinion. ...He did nothing wrong, nothing offending, and simply expressed his own opinion, without elaborating. He was talking about a "loudspeaker's design", and not about any particular individual. As a matter of fact he hasn't insulted anyone at all.

Me I just speak my true heart, and good spirit. :)
 
NorthStar said:
Looks like a tall speaker to me. ... => http://www.raidho.dk/SEEEMS.asp?id=1284

- Narrow baffle is good; less frontal contoured distortion. ...Good on and off axis dispersion.
- Tall (2010mm or almost 80") is good; wide spread (height) of the soundstage.
- D'appolito speaker array; I like. ...Point source even for a tall speaker.
- Because of its height it probably demands careful positioning; in relation to the floor and ceiling.
- The white drivers; personally I prefer black.
- Nice strong solid base. ...With adjustable spikes.
- The two ports (below and above), with integral front grilles; different, and I wonder what their effect is exactly.
...Like free flowing port wind turbulence and all that jazz. Was it calculated, measured, and integrated with a specific benefit?
...I'm dying to know ....

______________________

Mike, the poster of the above quote, Chr. R., should be reinstated with his membership activation status and privilege.
He shouldn't have been banned in the first place. ...In my sincere and honest opinion. ...He did nothing wrong, nothing offending, and simply expressed his own opinion, without elaborating. He was talking about a "loudspeaker's design", and not about any particular individual. As a matter of fact he hasn't insulted anyone at all.

Me I just speak my true heart, and good spirit. :)
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Bob - sometimes you don't know what you don't know. His homophobic comment and insults directed at another member were DELETED by me. You never saw it. He was banned for those comments not for discussing anything audio or speaker design related, etc.

I would kindly ask that you let the moderators do their jobs and moderate. Thank you.
 
the professor said:
After pondering the title of this thread and after reading thru peoples responses.

I think I've changed my point of view. I started out thinking a "Great" speaker was the end all ultimate speaker for somebodies taste and way of listening.

I think now what I think what classifies a speaker as a "great" speaker is whatever speaker allows the listener to enjoy the music. Some people, for example my wife, really could care less about anything but the basic melody or beat and the words sang/said. She appreciates my stereo no more than her car stereo so for her a great speaker is different than mine. And a LOT cheaper as she reminds me every so often. Totally in a friendly way but still a harassment. :)

I've said it before but I'll repeat myself. There are systems out there that I totally enjoy the music just as much as the system I have now at a tenth the price. The rest of my extravagance in my system is a fun hobby of trying to achieve a constantly better sounding system. But better doesn't mean I enjoy the music more.

I guess what im trying to say is --- There are "great" speakers at every price point.
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There certainly are great speakers at different price points, notice I never mentioned money. I still have a pair of PSB Synchrony One's that qualify !!
 
NorthStar said:
Looks like a tall speaker to me. ... => Overview

- Narrow baffle is good; less frontal contoured distortion. ...Good on and off axis dispersion.

The baffle width only affects the frequency diffraction affects frequency response. Off axis is determined mostly by the driver diameters and crossover.

- Tall (2010 mm or almost 80") is good; wide spread (height) of the soundstage.
I agree, but the tweeter's height is more important and appears to be at a good height.

- D'appolito speaker array; I like. ...Point source even for a tall speaker.
IME, D'appolito type speakers contain the soundstage height within it's physical boundaries, not saying this is a must as I just haven't experienced anything different yet.

- Because of its height it probably demands careful positioning; in relation to the floor and ceiling.
Actually, just like line arrays, properly designed WMTMW and WTW speakers will have less issues with floor and ceiling reflections.

- The white drivers; personally I prefer black.
A little contrast is nice to make the brand more easily recognized.

- Nice strong solid base. ...With adjustable spikes.
- The two ports (below and above), with integral front grilles; different, and I wonder what their effect is exactly.
{Reminds me the Krell Reference Subwoofer.}
...Like free flowing port wind turbulence and all that jazz. Was it calculated, measured, and integrated with a specific benefit?
The fins can cut down on turbulence, but if the ports are the proper diameter and length, they would just be for appearance.
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Answers in bold.
 
I was curious to finally hear why he thought the design was faulty. Could you un-ban him so I could find out?:D
 
Hey Guys, Here are the absolute no-no's. We will not discuss politics !! We will not tolerate hatred or prejudice in any way shape or form. Be a lady or a gentleman and have respect for you fellow members.

Thanks,
Mark
 
GaryProtein said:
I was curious to finally hear why he thought the design was faulty. Could you un-ban him so I could find out?:D
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Gary, when asked he provided the Raidho C4.1's picture; do you think that he was referring to its two ports (front vents; the one quite low, and the other quite high)?

He was right; I ain't no scientific pro speaker expert. ...I just enjoy the music, from what my ears can hear, and also the good looks from my vision; nice furniture, beautiful looking speakers with attractive woodwork and cool design, and gorgeous looking young women. :) ...Nice cars (Lamborghins, Bugattis, Jags, ...) and mansions of course (in the Alps).
 
There have been many good ideas in this thread and I don't want to re-hash any. One thing I find in what I consider a great speaker is a transparency that allows what is up stream to be carried through and as pieces of gear are swapped out, the differences are brought forth.
 
NorthStar said:
Doug, transparency, is that like a magic act; disappearance, invisibility? ...A direct window into the recording venue? ...Being there?
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Bob, I guess in a way you could say a neutral sounding speaker, but it's more than that really. I think it's more of the ability to hear the subtle differences between two different tube based amps for example.
 
What makes a great speaker to me is a well-made design, beautiful to look at, made to last centuries, of course non fatiguing, be able to disappear, and sound tonally natural and not clinical or analytical, and yeah be able to play it all. Oh that is where the Futura, Radhio, Tad, and many others come in, has all this attributes and more.
 
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