Vicoustic Panels from Portugal

Steve

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Wow! Having this product for some 2 years now, if I were to do a new dedicated room, I would use these products again without hesitation.

Acoustic room treatment IMO, is the single biggest system upgrade you could perform & I would rate it greater than a 50% priority.

The WaveWood Premium & WaveWood Super Bass Extreme are my favourite products in the extensive Vicoustic product range.

The WaveWood Premium consists of a composite polyurethane foam & slotted flat wood veneer panel.

"Optimized for corner mounting, Super Bass Extreme's elegant wooden front is based on Vicoustic's flagship Wave Wood panel. This is combined with a membrane, two high-density foam layers and a micro-perforated rear panel, with 1mm holes, that acts as a Helmholtz resonator. Designed to provide effective low frequency absorption between 60-125 Hz, it delivers maximum effectiveness between 75 -100Hz."

WaveWood panels do a fabulous job eliminating room aberrations such as standing waves. Until these went in, I have never heard my loudspeakeakers go so low. Thumps & punch, tight & crispy. Music remains organically natural without any of the life sucked out of it. Their naturally sounding characteristics remind me of the Sydney Opera House. I swear that the Circque du Soleil Salimbanco CD soundstage is identical to the front row experience. Fabulous room pressurisation result. The music hits you hard in the chest.

Great finish, well constructed, well packaged packs & reasonably priced.

Wall Placement Solution:

I have placed 2 rows of 600x600 Wave Wood premium (light brown) on the rear wall in vertical orientation @ 720-750mm from the floor & flush to the architrave (10 panels total), a panel in each top front corner, & a panel behind the upper half of my loudspeakers @ 720mm from floor. I use 2 x 50mm Velcro adhesive strips to hang with the hook side on the wall.

The WaveWood panels work well on all walls including front on between loudspeakers. They will give the right diffusive/absorptive balance without killing the delicate upper frequencies. Side wall treatment in combination with some absorption will help tame any severe room echo problems. Rear wall treatment will improve bass definition. These panels can be effective on ceilings especially sloped or cathedral or stepped with bulkheads.

WaveWood Super Bass Extremes sit in each rear corner of the room behind JL Labs F113 subwoofers which also sit at 45 degrees. These bass traps are stackable if you are inclined. Due to the nature of my room & it's existing furnishings, I was limited with corner placement. The subs are approx 700mm outwards from these. Alternatively, the cheaper Wavewood panels adhered at 45 degrees to the corner are also very effective as corner bass traps. Again, I chose top corner wall placement on a 10 foot ceiling height with existing soft furnishing.

Ceiling Placement Solution:

I decided with the heavier OmgaWood Panel (Nordik colour) for the ceiling side & rear perimeters. The OmegaWood are sensitive to placement given their curved diffusion characteristics. A total of 8 panels were used for a 22m2 ceiling space which forms part of a larger open plan living area. Central are 6 tightly packed Multi-Fuser DC2 panels. These come in 3 colours now but could also be painted. The result is a satisfying listening experience without having to sit in the sweet spot. More often than not, that seating position is habitated by my old dog Jack! He just happens to love female jazz vocalists.

For those looking at room treatment options, you should consider these. They also have an extensive range to mix & match for larger room implementations & a Room Configurator on their website to assist with product selection & quantities. It is worth going to their website even just to view the awesome photos of many of the residential & commercial installations around the world. There are many varied types of implementations with their flexible product range.


Finish:

All CNC cut exactly. Commercial grade. The timber veneers are stained evenly. Low sheen, unobtrusive to the eye. All panels are consistent with minor grain variation only to the natural finish. As good as the Opera House theatre rooms. If you're into veneers, you will not hesitate hanging these panels.

How I hung them:

Light enough to hang with 50mm self adhesive Velcro tracks. (2 strips the width of the panel at each adjacent end). This method offers maximum flexibility for any adjustments. You can glue with their purpose adhesive if you wish.

As far as ceiling placement is concerned, I would not place diffusion panels closer than the first reflection point. Here, approx 1m from the loudspeaker facia line. Again, used 50mm self adhesive Velcro as described above. They have been up there for 2 years & have not moved or fallen. If you are going to go with Velcro, I recommend using black as it will disappear into the shadow line when looking edge on. Downside with Velcro is that it is more expensive than using their adhesive application.

Although their Flexi Glue is cheaper & non aggressive to foam or polystyrene, I was informed that it is a permanent application. Therefore you are likely to damage the panel if you rip them off the wall, once the glue has set.

Made in Portugal. Dealers worldwide.

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Steve - what an amazing write up! Thank you! I love the Velcro idea instead of the glue. Brilliant. Your room looks terrific by the way.


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Cheers Mike. These really work & it's great that they are now available in the USA.
 
Thanks Steve. Absolutely beautiful room, setup and pooch aka audio buddy.
 
Steve, how many channels of amplification total, sixteen?

The Denon POA-A1HDCI has ten, you have three McI's, ...seven speakers, two subs, ...you biamp some?

Cool setup, effective positioning acoustical panels.

You seem to be closer to the right corner (right front speaker); any reason?
 
Steve...did the dealer and/or manufacturer advise you on where to place the various treatments? If so, was it based solely on room dimensions or did you take any sonic measurements of the room and did those in any way inform where to place the treatments? Thanks and beautiful job.

I am curious to know what speakers you have? Unless I am going blind, it does not seem to be in your signature and couldn't make them out from your photos. Thanks again.
 
Steve, thank you for sharing! I'm focusing my next step on acoustic treatments and Vicoustics is definitely high up there.

Curious, did you have anyone help you with panel selection, placement, design, etc?

Nicely done!
 
Steve, How many wave wood are they in your room ?

Paul, Allen, Cyril...

Room treatment area 22m2 ceiling height 3m, of a larger open plan area approx 37m2 total.

There are heavy soft furnishings on 3 walls. Front behind the system, right wall & rear wall.

Needless to say, I have worked within the constraints of a pre-existing multi-purpose open plan living area. It brings about common problems that many experience & room treatment has to balance things out. We are talking about perhaps doing an extension in the future. But for now with these speakers, we are happy.

I find that absorption behind a panel or screen works well. Given speaker, placement & toeing, as well as ceiling treatment at the 1st reflection point, covering the screen works against me with a loss of that golden upper frequency sparkle.

Vicoustic quantities used.

WaveWood Premium = 16 (sold 4 back to a dealer, should of kept them) 10 on the back wall. 6 up front. I keep two of those unfixed as I reposition them from time to time.

WaveWood Super Bass Extreme = 2. Rear corners

OmegaWood = 8 ceiling, started with 12 but it was overkill & ruined everything. Less with experimentation, dealer took them back.

The dealer came out & pointed the obvious problems out. We used REW & compared that to an Aydessey sweep as well. Although Aydessey curves tend to exaggerate from around 4KHz (if I recall), it helped confirm that there were bass issues, reflection & cancellation in two frequency ranges. Upper bass, lower mids. Front top corner & rear wall treatment with WaveWood Premium panels helped address these problems.

Did it in 2 stages. Given the 3m high flat ceiling, it was kind of optional but the upper frequency range were also light. The ceiling treatment help a little more with imaging & upper frequency retention that was being taken away a little on the right side of the room from the soft furnishing.
 
Steve...did the dealer and/or manufacturer advise you on where to place the various treatments? If so, was it based solely on room dimensions or did you take any sonic measurements of the room and did those in any way inform where to place the treatments? Thanks and beautiful job.

I am curious to know what speakers you have? Unless I am going blind, it does not seem to be in your signature and couldn't make them out from your photos. Thanks again.

Cyril...

First part answered in previous post. Being new, have yet to update sig.

Loudspeakers are late 90s vintage Dali Grand. 500w, 4ohm, 27Hz-27KHz, 90db/2.83v. Next to Megalines, they were Dali's reference of the day.

They still hold there own against many that have tempted me since I acquired these 14years ago, but no more factory spare replacement parts if something bad happens one day. They now sound their best with the MC2301s. They have had Denon POA-S10s & then ML 33H before the McIntosh came along.

The surrounds below have been refurbished with NOS factory spares & are like brand new. I have a NOS spare Dali Grand Vocal centre channel in storage too.

The surrounds are:

Dali Grand Vocal. 250w, 4ohm, 46Hz-27KHz, 89db/2.83v

Dali Grand Coupe (2 pairs). 250w, 6ohm, 38Hz-27KHz, 38Hz-27Hz, 85db/2.83v (bi-amped). Nice range, needs some power but I still rate them as small due to volume (lack of puff).

Subs are JL Labs F113 on custom Sound Anchor stands.

I would have to step it up a couple of levels at least to compel me to upgrade. But that's another topic.

Getting back to some relevance, placement of the front are approx 700mm off the wall with WaveWood panel directly behind approx 720mm off the floor. Dali's are slightly towed outwards. Dali do not recommend inward towing & speakers should be facing straight on.
 
Steve, how many channels of amplification total, sixteen?

The Denon POA-A1HDCI has ten, you have three McI's, ...seven speakers, two subs, ...you biamp some?

Cool setup, effective positioning acoustical panels.

You seem to be closer to the right corner (right front speaker); any reason?


Bob...Correct on all counts. The Denon POA-A1 HDA is configured to bi-amp the rear surrounds.

Since that photo was taken, speaker positioning has changed very slightly, cabling has been cleaned up with several upgrades.

The Dali Grands have come out some more, they are a little closer in & are towed slightly "outwards".

Dali are not designed for inward toeing & it is recommended that they face straight ahead for best imaging soundstage & focus.
 
Steve...thanks for all the answers. Your Dalis are certainly high performers. I am sure your system brings you great joy as it should. Well done.
 
A relative recently purchased more than 70 panels for a dedicated HT & listening room. It is true that you need lots of these if you have 4 plain walls.

i look forward to seeing the job completed when he finally gets around to it! :rolleyes:
 
Steve - is there any preference over lines vertical vs lines horizontal?

Mike, Some have said yes there is a very subtle differentiation. I have tried but couldn't really pick it. For me it was an aesthetic decision along with imagining the sound waves travelling through the air & impacting the panels. So I decided to go with a vertical flute orientation.

I also spent time on their website's photo gallery checking out the many room implementations. :amazing:
 
My panels are here - sitting in my front hallway! 6 giant boxes! I've got enough Velcro to wrap the world. I didn't want to get started until I was sure. I will say this, I was unaware how fat they are. They really stick out from the wall. A little too much TBO. I hope it doesn't make my room feel closed in.
 
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