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Unpacking the Shunyata Everest 8000
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refresh of this thread:
i had previously been using a hodgepodge of AC tweaks (PS Audio PS10 + 2 HF MC1 Pro Magnets + Add-Power Wizard + Akiko Corelli, the latter being the best of the lot).
bought an everest, then demo'd the following cords feeding it:
SR Sigma NR (terrible match, too dark and rolled)
Sigma XC (far better, but still rolled and not detailed enough)
AQ Dragon (great dynamics and resolution, but was trying too hard on resolution - sounded like silver cabling, and generated fatigue)
Omega XC (the keeper)
i'm not big on spending $ and i generally find reviews hyperbolic. but the everest + omega (which is *required* to get the proper effects IMHO) is a truly fabulous AC solution. relative to my prior setup, its considerably more dynamic, extended and with far far better resolution without sounding forced or exaggerated (and resolution always being a function of the noise floor, which is nonexistent with this solution). tone is properly balanced from end to end, and PRAT is ideal (which i could not say with the sigma, or any transformer-based AC conditioner i ever tried). and i'd be remiss if i didn't point out the sturdy build quality of the everest, which cannot be said for competing conditioners at $10k+ (which might be housed in flimsy chassis, or employ questionable computer logic--and computers never fail do they?); the everest is plug and forget, and clearly built to last, per the lifetime warranty.
the thing about introducing new components is that the enthusiasm over the change has to be tempered against long term listenability, as not every change is a long-term solution.
the everest+ omega XC is just that.
wholeheartedly recommended, and my only quibble is the considerable price to entry.
i had previously been using a hodgepodge of AC tweaks (PS Audio PS10 + 2 HF MC1 Pro Magnets + Add-Power Wizard + Akiko Corelli, the latter being the best of the lot).
bought an everest, then demo'd the following cords feeding it:
SR Sigma NR (terrible match, too dark and rolled)
Sigma XC (far better, but still rolled and not detailed enough)
AQ Dragon (great dynamics and resolution, but was trying too hard on resolution - sounded like silver cabling, and generated fatigue)
Omega XC (the keeper)
i'm not big on spending $ and i generally find reviews hyperbolic. but the everest + omega (which is *required* to get the proper effects IMHO) is a truly fabulous AC solution. relative to my prior setup, its considerably more dynamic, extended and with far far better resolution without sounding forced or exaggerated (and resolution always being a function of the noise floor, which is nonexistent with this solution). tone is properly balanced from end to end, and PRAT is ideal (which i could not say with the sigma, or any transformer-based AC conditioner i ever tried). and i'd be remiss if i didn't point out the sturdy build quality of the everest, which cannot be said for competing conditioners at $10k+ (which might be housed in flimsy chassis, or employ questionable computer logic--and computers never fail do they?); the everest is plug and forget, and clearly built to last, per the lifetime warranty.
the thing about introducing new components is that the enthusiasm over the change has to be tempered against long term listenability, as not every change is a long-term solution.
the everest+ omega XC is just that.
wholeheartedly recommended, and my only quibble is the considerable price to entry.
My experience is completely different. Although this may not mean anything, this is just my experience.
One thing we all agree, Everest is a game changer. Simple.
In terms of the power cords on Everest: I initially and temporarily, got the Sigma EF, as this is only what the dealer had in stock when I got the Everest. Ordered the Sigma XC and waited until it arrived. Then I got the itch, and I got the Omega XC. So I tried three power cords on my Everest, the Sigma EF, the Sigma XC, and Omega XC.
Bottom line is the Omega XC is the best match on Everest hands down. No question. That is only if money grows on trees. But in the real world, I believe the Sigma XC is the more realistic match for the price, value for the money.
If I were to quantify, on a scale of 1 to 10 from EF to Omega XC: the Sigma XC gets you up to 7. Then the Omega to 10.
Again, my ears, my subjective impression, in my system (see signature).
One thing we all agree, Everest is a game changer. Simple.
In terms of the power cords on Everest: I initially and temporarily, got the Sigma EF, as this is only what the dealer had in stock when I got the Everest. Ordered the Sigma XC and waited until it arrived. Then I got the itch, and I got the Omega XC. So I tried three power cords on my Everest, the Sigma EF, the Sigma XC, and Omega XC.
Bottom line is the Omega XC is the best match on Everest hands down. No question. That is only if money grows on trees. But in the real world, I believe the Sigma XC is the more realistic match for the price, value for the money.
If I were to quantify, on a scale of 1 to 10 from EF to Omega XC: the Sigma XC gets you up to 7. Then the Omega to 10.
Again, my ears, my subjective impression, in my system (see signature).
JimmyS
New member
I’m a fan of Shunyata and my system is powered by their products. But an $8k power conditioner that needs a $7k power cord to function well, makes me question if the Everest is really my next step forward from my 6000T.
still-one
Active member
The Sigma XC at about half the cost of the Omega works very well with the Everest. Also when I owned a 6000T it benefited from Shunyata's better PC's too.
kennyb123
Member
It’s more about leaving money on the table. Also, it’s true for every conditioner that its performance depends on the power cord feeding it from the wall. I see it more as a good/better/best with the Omega XC being “best”, Sigma XC being “better” and maybe Alpha XC as “good”.
Dizzie
Well-known member
This discussion is very frustrating for me. I am building two semi-final systems. I would like an Everest for one of them but can't handle the size and shape. Its just to huge. I don't have room next to my double-width stand. And one of the slots is dedicated for a power conditioner. That is where an Everest would go if it was a traditional shape. A 6-outlet of the same quality would be even better for price. Fitting into that shelf space would also preclude the need for longer power cords necessitated by going farther off-center with a conditioner. The style and size of the Everest leaves me scratching my head.
But alas, If I can't fit an Everest I will keep the non-Shunyata power conditioner I already have and be saved from buying a bunch of Shunyata PCs to pair with an Everest. I should probably stop reading this thread.:S
But alas, If I can't fit an Everest I will keep the non-Shunyata power conditioner I already have and be saved from buying a bunch of Shunyata PCs to pair with an Everest. I should probably stop reading this thread.:S
Hang in there. Shunyata put out a teaser a few months ago to expect a new product soon. From what I understand it is the traditional form factor, but a level down in performance to Everest with fewer outlets. Nothing officially announced yet, but it has to be sooner than later now.
Dizzie
Well-known member
Thank you for that information. It is encouraging. It just makes good business sense. Selling a power conditioner opens up potential sales of other Shunyata power cords, interconnects and speaker cable. At the very least, a matching power cord for the conditioner. I hope we get news soon.
Dizzie
Well-known member
Any update? Where did you see the teaser?
I wonder if the delays have anything to do with the current climate (Supply chain)
That said, the upcoming product was supposed to be a Typhon QR and Denali 2000T Replacement.
A two outlet box for high end Monoblock amps with massive QRBB plus more tech from the Everest.
Your source components would plug into the Everest and high end amps into this device.
I don't think a smaller Everest is in the cards.
Aka a 6 or 4 outlet version.
They have the Denali 6000V2 to fill that void.
Puma Cat
Well-known member
A good summary, Mdp.
I think the reason that Everest is the size and form factor it is, is because it has a QR/BB device that is 3X the size of that in Denali 6000/S V2, AND a Cmode (common mode) filter (that is not in Denali) that would prevent it fitting into a horizontal chassis that would fit in a standard (usually 17" wide) audio rack shelf.
Dizzie
Well-known member
mdp632,
Thank you for the clarification on products under development disappointing as the news is to me. But in the glass-half-full category it does save me a lot of money and save me the hassle of selling what I have now. I can cross a Shunyata power conditioner and two power cords off of my wish list.
Dizzie
Well-known member
Puma Cat,
Thank you for the useful information. Would those components fit into a 17"-18" wide chassis that was taller and only had 6 duplex outlets? Many racks would accommodate a taller unit but in a conventional shape. Easy fit in my rack.
Puma Cat
Well-known member
I don't know. My recommendation would be to ask the nice folks at Shunyata Research.
Puma Cat
Well-known member
I wouldn't cross a Shunyata PD (power distributor) off your list; rather why not stand pat for the time being and see what comes down the road? Like the old proverb: "Good things come to those who wait."
Dizzie
Well-known member
Doing nothing = standing pat.
opcorn:There is no other power distributor on my wish list so there will not be a change for now. My experience with Shunyata a decade or more ago was frustrating. As soon as I bought one of their products they came out with a revision that was allegedly much better. Witness the current v2 labels etc. and evolution of Hydra into multiple versions. I suspect that trend will continue so I see no need to jump in now.
kennyb123
Member
Caelin referred to it as a “companion” device for the 6000/S. I tried advanced search to find the posts but couldn’t figure out how to have it only return posts and not threads.
kennyb123
Member
Doing nothing = standing pat.
There is no other power distributor on my wish list so there will not be a change for now. My experience with Shunyata a decade or more ago was frustrating. As soon as I bought one of their products they came out with a revision that was allegedly much better. Witness the current v2 labels etc. and evolution of Hydra into multiple versions. I suspect that trend will continue so I see no need to jump in now.
My original Denali is as good as it was when I purchased it. The Denali v2 didn’t diminish it one bit. I’m glad I hopped onboard with a company that continues to innovate - especially when that innovation brings a bigger bang for the buck.
I have to admit though feeling some disappointment when I leaned that my Denali v1 wasn’t upgradable to v2. But apparently not much of any f the parts were carried over to the v2. It was pretty much a brand new offering. But at the end of the day, I’m still just as happy with my Denali v1 as I was they day it arrived.