Unbeatable offer on Revel Salon2’s

I owned the Revel Salon 2’s with Pass Lab’s XA-100.5 monoblocks for several years and it was some of the best sound I’ve heard in my listening room. The Salon 2’s are very neutral speakers with one of the flatter response curves measured by JA. They do require significant current delivery for them to reach their full potential and need to be played at medium to high volume levels to produce solid bass response. Overall one of the best speakers values at their price point.

Ken
 
I am also thinking of a pair of Salon 2's (currently have JBL 1400 Array). I have Marantz MA-9S2 mono blocks. Enough juice?

Thanks for those in the know......
 
My first instinct would be no, typically the Salon 2's would need more than 70 watts and the M9 manual mentions 4 to 16 ohm. On the other hand I tried a set of 1400's at the time using 100 watt monobloxks from Conrad Johnson, although the 1400's are rated to be efficient I felt the 14000's would benefit from some more juice. I got decent sound it just seemed like the woofers weren't being driven as they should. So if the M9's get the 1400's woofers pumping the Salon 2 is worth a try, although the impedance will swing much more than the 1400's.

Welcome to AS.


tom1040 said:
I am also thinking of a pair of Salon 2's (currently have JBL 1400 Array). I have Marantz MA-9S2 mono blocks. Enough juice?

Thanks for those in the know......
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Indeed. As I have come to find out, I was using a McIntosh MC402 on the Array's in the past and it seemed the Woofers were a bit 'flabby' in the bass. As I investigated the reason behind this--after all the Mac is 400 wpc, there was talk of the speakers needing current rather than wpc to shine. Having positive memories from using Marantz in my youth (long time ago!) and reading some reviews it appeared the Marantz was touted as having 150 amps of peak current so I pulled the trigger and bought them--haven't looked back since. As many will attest, Marantz as a hi-fi brand is most known currently for low to mid tier HT gear manufactured in China but they do make reference gear in Japan.

Yesterday after posting my question I did some more searching online and saw this review from "Positive Feedback" whom had the Salon 2's as part of his review:

"And the Salon2s thrived on the clean power delivered by the MA-9S2s by replicating an outstanding combination of the above virtues and added an ability to convey the power and drive behind the music in as thrilling a manner as I have experienced in my listening room." Since I have only 4 posts on this forum I cannot add a link to this post to the review.


A lot of variables come into play with every system of which the room is certainly a big part in addition to how loud music is played. The sensitivity of the Salon is rated at 86.4 while the Arrays is 89.

Mr. Peabody, are you thinking I am using the original Marantz MA 9's from the early 60's?

Thanks for the welcome!
 
I had a hegel h360 connected to the salon 2, the hegel really brought the salon 1 to life, but the 250/425 wasn't enough to wake the salon 2 woofers up. I emailed revel support and got a 2 word reply when I asked how much power the salon 2 needed and the reply was '500 watts'. The man that bought my salon 2's from me used the MC601's to drive them and he says even with the headroom that amp has the red clipping lights flicker at times.
 
Yeah, I thought you had the tube amps. Are yours solid state? The Marantz Reference is typically very good. As I stated a friend had their solid state monoblocks driving Dynaudio C4's, that's no easy task.

Have you heard the Salon 2? They would be different from JBL. The JBL with horisontal horns I feel image much better. As good as the Salon are I still prefer the presentation of the JBL. There are trade off's though as the Salon or other tower speakers can throw a taller sound stage in most instances.

As a side note the Salon 2 are on their last run before being totally discontinued, those and the entire Revel line are having a sale with a good discount.
tom1040 said:
Indeed. As I have come to find out, I was using a McIntosh MC402 on the Array's in the past and it seemed the Woofers were a bit 'flabby' in the bass. As I investigated the reason behind this--after all the Mac is 400 wpc, there was talk of the speakers needing current rather than wpc to shine. Having positive memories from using Marantz in my youth (long time ago!) and reading some reviews it appeared the Marantz was touted as having 150 amps of peak current so I pulled the trigger and bought them--haven't looked back since. As many will attest, Marantz as a hi-fi brand is most known currently for low to mid tier HT gear manufactured in China but they do make reference gear in Japan.

Yesterday after posting my question I did some more searching online and saw this review from "Positive Feedback" whom had the Salon 2's as part of his review:

"And the Salon2s thrived on the clean power delivered by the MA-9S2s by replicating an outstanding combination of the above virtues and added an ability to convey the power and drive behind the music in as thrilling a manner as I have experienced in my listening room." Since I have only 4 posts on this forum I cannot add a link to this post to the review.


A lot of variables come into play with every system of which the room is certainly a big part in addition to how loud music is played. The sensitivity of the Salon is rated at 86.4 while the Arrays is 89.

Mr. Peabody, are you thinking I am using the original Marantz MA 9's from the early 60's?

Thanks for the welcome!
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Yes, Mine are solid state. Specs are 300 wpc/8 and 600 wpc/4 with the aforementioned 150 amps peak current. I also had a pair of McIntosh MC601's. I prefer the Marantz.

Nope, I have not heard the Salons. Coast of Maine does not have a lot of Hi End shops around. Looking for my last loudspeaker. Love the Arrays but I have had them for about 12 years and just thought of a changeup. Oh well, perhaps I will wait for a K2 S9900 (or, perhaps a deal for Everest....I am a JBL fanboy, I guess). I just brought a HiFi Rose RS150B streamer, so I am past the 'itch' stage of really wanting new stuff.

Sorry to the OP for interrupting his thread....
 
You could look at the 4367 or other Synthesis models. The Salon 2 is very good, I still prefer them over the new Performa 3 sound. If you like the dynamics and immediacy of horns it can take some getting used to if going to a "audiophile" type speaker.
 
I had a pair of JBL 4365's with the McIntosh MC601's in a separate system. The room was untreated--guess that was my first mistake but I did not particularly care for the pairing so I sold them both. Currently trying to pare down to one system at my home in Maine. I do have the Marantz reference PM-10 and SA-10 in my retirement home in State College, PA. but only have low end JBL 940T's.

In a system in my day basement in Maine I have an near mint Sansui G-8000 driving a pair of JBL S3100's (told you I was a JBL fanboy!) Looking to consolidate/sell some of these but in no actual hurry.....

I have heard great things about the 4367 and have read extensively about them on the Lansing Heritage forums---almost pulled the trigger on them at one point. Mr. Peabody, how do you like yours?
 
I love mine. With good electronics the mid/high drivers are smooth and pristine, the sound spoils me to other tweeters, there are other good sounding but none I prefer over my JBL. Bass may vary depending on room but I find it to be excellent, especially if you want a bass guitar to sound like one actually being playing in the room, it just has whatever it is that makes it sound as it naturally should. Those horns throw a wide sound stage.

Possible downsides the sound stage sometimes isn't as tall as a tower speaker might do, the sound stage seems to bloom more at a higher volume. These may be typical of a horn speaker.

As a side note the HDI series is really good. Maybe not to replace the 1400 but the HDI punch above their weight class as they say. I actually preferred the 3800's over a set of Monitor Audio Gold overall. Both models driven by a Hegel 590 side by side.
tom1040 said:
I had a pair of JBL 4365's with the McIntosh MC601's in a separate system. The room was untreated--guess that was my first mistake but I did not particularly care for the pairing so I sold them both. Currently trying to pare down to one system at my home in Maine. I do have the Marantz reference PM-10 and SA-10 in my retirement home in State College, PA. but only have low end JBL 940T's.

In a system in my day basement in Maine I have an near mint Sansui G-8000 driving a pair of JBL S3100's (told you I was a JBL fanboy!) Looking to consolidate/sell some of these but in no actual hurry.....

I have heard great things about the 4367 and have read extensively about them on the Lansing Heritage forums---almost pulled the trigger on them at one point. Mr. Peabody, how do you like yours?
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Jim Smith said:
Hi Art,

Actually Mike at Suncoast has a lot of experience with the Revels. I primarily have used Pass amps, and have found the larger integrated amps to work well.

Frankly, I've not seen nor heard Mike's suggestions to be anything but excellent in this area.
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Jim, I can only echo what you said about large (Pass Labs) integrated amps. I love my Pass INT 250. However, I can't comment on the Revel Salon 2s as I've not auditioned them. I'm running my INT 250 through Harbeth Super HL 5+ 40th Anniversary speakers in a smallish to medium sized room. Great match up and symbiosis with the Pass integrated amp.
 
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