Typhon QR

[Gondo101]

Thanks a lot for the advice Caelin.
on your suggestion to connect Typhon QR with Denali 2000T, I understand that the QR BB module size of Denali 2000T is nine time smaller than Typhon’s, won’t it be negate the “efficacy”of the Typhon’s WR BB since it’s much bigger than 2000 T’s?

 

[Kuoppis]

We actually brought the Alpha USB to the Munich show.
It will be announced within a week or so.
Then, the Sigma version will follow along in just a few weeks.

Heard the Alpha cables in Munich, very nice. That’s likely to be my next loom.

Richard was also kind enough to elaborate on the upgrades in the Triton to current V3 model. I’m a bit tempted.


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[CGabriel]

Thanks a lot for the advice Caelin.
on your suggestion to connect Typhon QR with Denali 2000T, I understand that the QR BB module size of Denali 2000T is nine time smaller than Typhon’s, won’t it be negate the “efficacy”of the Typhon’s WR BB since it’s much bigger than 2000 T’s?

Usually, we tell people NOT to cascade power conditioners since the effects are negative or unpredictable.

But the TQR is a different type of device. Connecting multiple Typhons is “additive” whether you use them with a Triton, Denali or older Hydra power distributors. We have even had people speculate about getting a TQR and then connecting a Venom PS8 to give the TQR eight outlets. Something to think about there.

But the answer the short answer is that the D2/T would be a positive when used with the TQR and vice-versa.

 

[Gondo101]

Caelin, thanks a lot for your advice

 

[chekin]

Caelin,

I am living in Asia and I currently have a Triton v2 and it performs very well with my system now.
Since they are at similar price, which upgrade would yield the most improvement - upgrading my Triton v2 to v3 plus a second-hand Typhon, or simply adding the Typhon QR to my Triton v2? May I know the sonic difference?

Thank you very much for your kind advice!

 

[joeinid]

Welcome to the forum, thank you for joining.

 

[BlueFox]

Caelin,

I am living in Asia and I currently have a Triton v2 and it performs very well with my system now.
Since they are at similar price, which upgrade would yield the most improvement - upgrading my Triton v2 to v3 plus a second-hand Typhon, or simply adding the Typhon QR to my Triton v2? May I know the sonic difference?

Thank you very much for your kind advice!

Does a v2 to v3 upgrade really cost $9K in Asia? I guess shipping and exchange rates could affect the price. I forgot what I paid for my upgrade, but it wasn’t $9K.

Anyway, great question. I noticed going from v2 to v3 on my Triton wasn’t as big an upgrade as was going from v1 to v2.

 

[chekin]

Does a v2 to v3 upgrade really cost $9K in Asia? I guess shipping and exchange rates could affect the price. I forgot what I paid for my upgrade, but it wasn’t $9K.

There is no upgrade plan in my country and I have to sell my Triton v2 and buy a v3.

 

[CGabriel]

Caelin,

I am living in Asia and I currently have a Triton v2 and it performs very well with my system now.
Since they are at similar price, which upgrade would yield the most improvement - upgrading my Triton v2 to v3 plus a second-hand Typhon, or simply adding the Typhon QR to my Triton v2? May I know the sonic difference?

Thank you very much for your kind advice!

It is a tough decision because both are a substantial improvement.

But the Typhon is a very special product. It really does something for the system that cannot be duplicated with an other product or equipment upgrade. I would get the Tyohon. Then upgrade the Triton at a later date.

 

[Kingsrule]

Caelin

I have 2 original Typhons, one for each monoblock. Dedicated lines for each amp. Obviously each plugged into respective duplex plug.

How would Typhon II change things?

 

[CGabriel]

Caelin

I have 2 original Typhons, one for each monoblock. Dedicated lines for each amp. Obviously each plugged into respective duplex plug.

How would Typhon II change things?

Well I am sure you already know what Typhons bring to a system. Some listeners comment on the reduction of noise or the improvements in the foundation or in the improvement in clarity and resolution. But for me, the hallmark signature of Typhon has to do with its transformational ability to render spatial information. A good, properly setup stereo can portray a solid 2 dimensional sonic image with a focused center and good left to right separation of instruments. A great system is 3 dimensional in that it adds a sense of height and depth to the soundscape.

What the Typhon brings to a great system is another dimension. So instead of a virtual soundscape laid our before you spanning the two speakers with a sense of depth extending back towards the back wall - the Typhon creates a sense of immersion ‘into’ the sound field. It is as if you are transported to the recording venue and are present in that space. To be a bit analytical about it, the soundscape is stretched and pulled forward towards you the listener extending even behind you. Some have called it somewhat similar to a really well setup multi-channel system.

Whatever qualities you have experienced with the original Typhon and in whatever manner you wish to describe that experience, just know that the TQR does more of ‘that’. I have read a report from an early adopter who said that the TQR was five times better than the original. I certainly wouldn’t say that, but then again, I have not heard his particular system so I just have to trust his own subjective impression. On the other hand I have heard some report that the original Typhon didn’t do much for the system over and above what the Triton brought to it. So each system and each person’s perceptual abilities are different.

Frankly, I am happy for you that you have had the resources to acquire such a fabulous system and proud that the Typhon has contributed to your sense of enjoyment.

 

[Gondo101]

Caelin,
Saw pictures on Denali’s internal, any chance you can share pictures on how Trton v3 and TQR Internal look like?

 

[Kuoppis]

Caelin,
Saw pictures on Denali’s internal, any chance you can share pictures on how Trton v3 and TQR Internal look like?

Triton V3

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[Gondo101]

Wow, thanks, looks like EU version, isn’t it?
Didi you replace the top cover with glass ?

 

[Kuoppis]

Wow, thanks, looks like EU version, isn’t it?
Didi you replace the top cover with glass ?

Not sure whether it is the US or EU version, I did not check the sockets.

This was the piece on display in the Shunyata room in Munich.


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[hieukm]

Can the Typhon QR be used in conjunction with another Power Conditioner rather than Shunyata products?

 

[isquirrel]

I have a full Shunyata system, Triton V2 and Typhon and all Sigma Cables of different varietals. My question for Caelin is I have to run the Triton and Typhon apart so in my current system I replaced the umbilical which was an Alpha with a Sigma 1.75M.

Can I do the same with the upgrade I am purchasing: Triton V3, TYphon QR and replace all of the Sigma cables with Sigma NR's. This time I am trying the the Sigma signal cables (Interconnects). The upgrade price comes to some $35,000. I am really struggling with how much of a difference is the upgrade going to make and is it worth it. Solving my fundamental issue of needing to run the Triton V3 and Typhon QR apart by one shelf's width on a HRS stand will mean I need a longer umbilical.

Your advice would be much appreciated.

 

[joeinid]

Welcome to the forum isquirrel, Thank you for joining. Sorry for the delay in welcoming you aboard.

 

[CGabriel]

I have a full Shunyata system, Triton V2 and Typhon and all Sigma Cables of different varietals. My question for Caelin is I have to run the Triton and Typhon apart so in my current system I replaced the umbilical which was an Alpha with a Sigma 1.75M.

Can I do the same with the upgrade I am purchasing: Triton V3, TYphon QR and replace all of the Sigma cables with Sigma NR's. This time I am trying the the Sigma signal cables (Interconnects). The upgrade price comes to some $35,000. I am really struggling with how much of a difference is the upgrade going to make and is it worth it. Solving my fundamental issue of needing to run the Triton V3 and Typhon QR apart by one shelf's width on a HRS stand will mean I need a longer umbilical.

Your advice would be much appreciated.

First, thank you for using our products in your system.

The original Typhon, (TY1), is a parallel device. It’s performance is radically affect by the length of the umbilical. Which is why it was as short as possible. So, while I understand your space limitations, the longer umbilical hurts the performance.

The new Typhon QR (TQR) is a serial connected device. It is less affected by the umbilical cable length. The TQR comes with a 1.5 meter umbilical as standard equipment (no extra charge). If you need a longer cable simply specify that at the time of ordering. BTW, do not order a Sigma NR to use as the umbilical. First it requires a special C20 AC plug. And the supplied umbilical is equivalent to a Sigma EF cable, so there is no higher performance option available.

The early adopters of the TQR are universally reporting that it is a substantial upgrade from the TY1. The upgrade from Sigma Analog, Digital or HC cables is smaller in significance. The Sigma NR is better but the original Sigmas are not chopped liver. So, if I were giving advice to my best friend I would say that the TQR is a definite must have. The Sigma PC upgrades should be be evaluated individually to see if the substantial cost is worth the performance upgrade for you personally.

The Sigma speaker cables and interconnects have several reviews published or coming soon. The latest being the review of the Sigma phono cables by Tim Aucremann. You should read it and then be sure to do your own evaluation in your system. With products at these price levels, you should always work with a dealer gives you the right to return a cable if it doesn’t perform to your expectation. If you already have a dealer who treats you right - return the courtesy and don’t waste their time or price shop them for a couple hundred bucks. A great dealer is your most valued asset when trying to make these decisions.

 

[CGabriel]

Can the Typhon QR be used in conjunction with another Power Conditioner rather than Shunyata products?

A qualified yes, but it is complicated based on the specific partnering device. The TQR was designed specifically to work with the Triton v3 which is a device designed to maximize DTCD, instantaneous current delivery. Using a device that, by its nature, is current limiting will degrade the benefits afforded by the TQR.