Typhon QR
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This is definitely a unit that I look forward to the already formidable and amazing results I am hearing with the new TRITON v3; it's the best
power conditioner of any kind that I've ever owned, bar none!
power conditioner of any kind that I've ever owned, bar none!
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If you mean does it block DC from the incoming power, I would say no, from what I understand. (But that is only based on what I have read - I in no way have any direct knowledge.) In the Shunyata forum of Whatsbestforum.com Caelin Gabriel of Shunyata answered a question about DC blocking yesterday. Here is part of what he posted:
"...If you mean a DC blocker? Yes, we have a device that is fully developed and have several that are operating in our reference system. We still don’t think there is a viable market to invest in putting them into production. We have tested all of the relatively inexpensive units on the market and found them to be “wanting” at best. Some of them, in the tests we performed, just flat don’t work. So, I sympathize with those of you that have the problem.
If we did build the device it would completely eliminate so called DC, have outlets for 6 components and provide a continuous current rating of up to 30 amps. But that level of performance is relatively expensive. We are talking about a product that would retail for about US$4k. We just don’t see enough demand at this point to put them in production."
"...If you mean a DC blocker? Yes, we have a device that is fully developed and have several that are operating in our reference system. We still don’t think there is a viable market to invest in putting them into production. We have tested all of the relatively inexpensive units on the market and found them to be “wanting” at best. Some of them, in the tests we performed, just flat don’t work. So, I sympathize with those of you that have the problem.
If we did build the device it would completely eliminate so called DC, have outlets for 6 components and provide a continuous current rating of up to 30 amps. But that level of performance is relatively expensive. We are talking about a product that would retail for about US$4k. We just don’t see enough demand at this point to put them in production."
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My gut says yes. But I think it is something you would have to try. Let us know if you have a change to try it.
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I highly recommend that you call Shunyata & ask them. Caelin Gabriel of Shunyata, in multiple posts on this and other forums, has expressed the opinion that the original (non-QR) Typhon potentially provides less benefit when used with the Denali series power conditioners than when used with the Triton series, for technical reasons. Here is an except of a post he made on an AudioAficionado forum: "... Some people use the Typhon with a DENALI and say it is an improvement. However, it is not as significant as when used with the Triton because the Denali does not have the internal buss system that allows the Triton to fully realize the benefits of the Typhon's noise reduction capabilities." But that may not apply to the new Typhon QR, since it is connected in series, rather than in parallel, with other power conditioners.
Yes, it is a very substantial upgrade. We recently did a demo with a D6000/T then added the Typhon QR in series. The new QR version works very well with the Denali products.
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Caelin,
I currently have a Denali 6000/T. Since they are the same price, which upgrade would yield the most improvement - trading in my Denali towards a Triton V3, or adding the Typhon QR to the Denali? Unfortunately, a Triton + Typhon is beyond my budget for the foreseeable future...
Thanks for being so available, and participating in these forums!
I would get the Triton v3 (Tv3j. It is vastly (JMO) superior to the Denali sonically. And it includes an advanced grounding system (CGS) which is similar in function to the Tripoint or Entreq grounding boxes. We built the Triton/Typhon reference system as two separate boxes intentionally so that you could get the Triton first and upgrade to the full system at a later date when finances permit. JFYI, since the Typhon QR is just hitting the market, there will probably be people selling their original Typhon to upgrade which means you could get a used one at a significant savings.
Dear Caelin,
I read that Triton has better dynamics vs. Denali. However I love my Denali 6000 as it makes my system smoother which I believe due to its impact to my digital source and solid state preamp.
Now I am thinking to connect Typhon QR to my power amp, but as they are monoblocks, do you think it will be a good idea to have cyclops or hydra 2 after typhon QR? If so is it possible to order with short umbilical cable (say 1 foot or 2 feet only)?
thanks in advance for your advice
the professor
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I received my 2 Typhon QRs. And in both cases - WOW!
I'm using one feeding a Triton V3 and compared to the older Typhon, I'd say it's on a magnitude of 5 times what you get with the older Typhon in the same system.
I'm using the other one to feed the Gryphon Diablo. I'm using the dac that is internal to the Diablo, so basically the Typhon QR is feeding the Dac, Preamp and power amp. It makes the already supper quiet Diablo to another level. Just amazing. On top of more blackness, its so smooth but also more dynamic at the same time.
The only little nit - the cable that they include to go from the Typhon QR to Triton or amp depending on what you order, seems loose when you plug it into the back of the typhon. Usually Shunyata's plugs fit tight, almost too tight in fact so this is unusual.
Great addition!!!!! :woot:
I'm using one feeding a Triton V3 and compared to the older Typhon, I'd say it's on a magnitude of 5 times what you get with the older Typhon in the same system.
I'm using the other one to feed the Gryphon Diablo. I'm using the dac that is internal to the Diablo, so basically the Typhon QR is feeding the Dac, Preamp and power amp. It makes the already supper quiet Diablo to another level. Just amazing. On top of more blackness, its so smooth but also more dynamic at the same time.
The only little nit - the cable that they include to go from the Typhon QR to Triton or amp depending on what you order, seems loose when you plug it into the back of the typhon. Usually Shunyata's plugs fit tight, almost too tight in fact so this is unusual.
Great addition!!!!! :woot:
Sorry for the delay in response.
Yes, the Cyclops or Hydra-2 would work just fine. The Venom PS8 is also a very high-end way to expand the number of outlets even though it is relatively inexpensive. I often recommend it to people who need more outlets than the Denali or Triton provide.
If you want to go hog wild - get a Denali D2000/T with a Typhon QR feeding it. A bit pricey however.
The Typhon QR comes with a 1.5 meter umbilical cable as standard equipment. No extra charge. This cable is equivalent to our reference Sigma EF in performance. The standard connector is a C19 since the Typhon QR was designed to feed power to a Triton. However, we will build a custom cable for you, at no extra charge, with a C15 connector to feed an amplifier. We can also make a longer umbilical if required but you must pay the extra length charge.
Hope this helps.
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Agree that the Typhon QR has that WOW! factor. I've reached a point listening to it coupled/driving the Triton v3 where all the fancy
audio-nut phrases are getting dropped and all I can say is that with it, my system JUST SOUNDS LIKE GREAT MUSIC!!!
I don't have a loose umbilical coupling issue here; it's not quite as tight at the Triton v3 but it is definitely not loose. You may want
to drop Shunyata/your dealer a note for suggestions.
Shunyata sure is kicking some butt these days. Great projects.
Caelin - when do you think we will see the USB cables?
Caelin - when do you think we will see the USB cables?
We actually brought the Alpha USB to the Munich show.
It will be announced within a week or so.
Then, the Sigma version will follow along in just a few weeks.
I still have your Sigma USB prototype and no, you’re not getting it back. You couldn’t pry it from me. Ever. Never. Ok, I’ll trade it for the final version when it’s ready. [emoji6]
When people hear the Sigma USB, there will be a fire sale on other brands of USB cables. It’s at a whole new level of usb cable performance.