To jab or not to jab

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TheOctopus said:
It is not about being chosen. I have no idea what you are even talking about. My whole family except myself is vaccinated, including my kids who work in the medical field.

It is simply being a bit more aware and in tune with facts and developments, whatever they may be. I surely hope and pray that all these vaccines are safe.
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Well my family ( bother , sister, daughter, cousins, are in the medical field not to mention a lot of close friends, and they are all vaccinated. I would believe their guidance over stuff written about on a forum. Like you, I hope any vaccine is safe, not just covid. Now if they can move this fast and get a cure for cancer I'm all for that.
 
CPP said:
Well my family ( bother , sister, daughter, cousins, are in the medical field not to mention a lot of close friends, and they are all vaccinated. I would believe their guidance over stuff written about on a forum. Like you, I hope any vaccine is safe, not just covid. Now if they can move this fast and get a cure for cancer I'm all for that.
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We have a few vaccines already HPV and Hep B both of which cause cancer. There are more vaccines being researched. Gene Therapy will be a big game changer in the future and being cancer free. At the same time we are trying to get to other planets to eventually colonize them... The problem of over population, planet damage and longer life spans are contradictory to each other... Obviously!

Sure, we can switch to lab grown/synthetic meats instead of raising cattle, they are working very successfully on that. I've read about the results, impressive if not a bit disturbing.

Bill Gates is buying up as much farmland as he can grab and now he owns half of all the farm land in the US. He is a big proponent of a vegetarian/synthetic meat generations to come.... Guess what, nothing stands still, everything will change as it always has.
 
TheOctopus said:
We have a few vaccines already HPV and Hep B both of which cause cancer. There are more vaccines being researched. Gene Therapy will be a big game changer in the future and being cancer free. At the same time we are trying to get to other planets to eventually colonize them... The problem of over population, planet damage and longer life spans are contradictory to each other... Obviously!

Sure, we can switch to lab grown/synthetic meats instead of raising cattle, they are working very successfully on that. I've read about the results, impressive if not a bit disturbing.

Bill Gates is buying up as much farmland as he can grab and now he owns half of all the farm land in the US. He is a big proponent of a vegetarian/synthetic meat generations to come.... Guess what, nothing stands still, everything will change as it always has.
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Not just Gates, but China also is buying up US farmland.

It leaves a few questions, is it to Help our population be fed properly or to control a Food Shortage when they need one?

If you read the Johns Hopkins playbook called The Spars Pandemic 2025-2028, there is a plan for both Antibiotic and Food shortages included.

They always tell you what they will do before they do it, you just have to be paying attention.
 
Shadowfax said:
Not just Gates, but China also is buying up US farmland.

It leaves a few questions, is it to Help our population be fed properly or to control a Food Shortage when they need one?

If you read the Johns Hopkins playbook called The Spars Pandemic 2025-2028, there is a plan for both Antibiotic and Food shortages included.

They always tell you what they will do before they do it, you just have to be paying attention.
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It sure would seem that way, wouldn't it. Both Gates and Fauci have mentioned the upcoming pandemic and here we are... Coincidence? Lucky Guess? They knew the plan? Whatever.... we are the ones dealing with it in the end as usual.

All that noise and upheaval about how we are largely dependent on foreign nations for even our basic PPE and medicine!

When you go to the one source that should know the answer, they DON"T KNOW... Will be interesting to see what and how much will change. My guess is not much if anything at all will change.


As the spread of COVID-19 threatens to disrupt pharma supply chains and create drug shortages, the Trump administration is reportedly looking for ways to reduce U.S. dependence on APIs and drugs from China. So, how dependent is the U.S. on China for its drugs? The fact is, the FDA doesn’t know.

Janet Woodcock, FDA’s director of the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research, in congressional testimony in October said while it is clear drug production, particularly of APIs, has moved out of the U.S., the FDA doesn’t know a lot more than that. FDA info show the number of Chinese facilities licensed to produce APIs for U.S. drugs is smaller than in the U.S., 13% versus 28%, but those statistics don’t mean much.

“The FDA doesn’t know whether Chinese facilities are actually producing APIs, how much they are producing, or where the APIs they are producing are being distributed worldwide, including in the United States,” Woodcock reported. “… Similarly, we do not have information that would enable us to assess the resilience of the U.S. manufacturing base, should it be tested by China’s withdrawal from supplying the U.S. market.”
 
Shadowfax said:
And that is exactly why I said that in a few years, I hope we all have a good laugh on my behalf because I would like to hope I am wrong.

Also, this first shot might not be the one, but the process was designed to see just how many willing participants there will be when they do decide to lace the injections if not already. Looks like they have an answer.

Do some more digging on population control and you will find numerous NGOs associated with Gates Foundation, the UN and more who are funding ways to depopulate.
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As to the SPARS Pandemic Scenario... Difficult to imagine a competent response when those individuals that are placed in the positions of making decisions to implement swift and decisive actions to lead the nation out of a crisis are more concerned to sticking it to each other depending on which side they are on... Key words being "communication", "management", etc...

Of course "rumor control", "proactive and reactive media relations/control", etc.. and one can see how the future pandemics will/should be handled in the opinion of those who are involved with such topics.





2017

The Center’s SPARS Pandemic exercise narrative comprises a futuristic scenario that illustrates communication dilemmas concerning medical countermeasures (MCMs) that could plausibly emerge in the not-so-distant future. Its purpose is to prompt users, both individually and in discussion with others, to imagine the dynamic and oftentimes conflicted circumstances in which communication around emergency MCM development, distribution, and uptake takes place. While engaged with a rigorous simulated health emergency, scenario readers have the opportunity to mentally “rehearse” responses while also weighing the implications of their actions. At the same time, readers have a chance to consider what potential measures implemented in today’s environment might avert comparable communication dilemmas or classes of dilemmas in the future.

The self-guided exercise scenario for public health communicators and risk communication researchers covers a raft of themes and associated dilemmas in risk communications, rumor control, interagency message coordination and consistency, issue management, proactive and reactive media relations, cultural competency, and ethical concerns. To ensure that the scenario accounts for rapid technological innovation and exceeds the expectations of participants, the Center’s project team gleaned information from subject matter experts, historical accounts of past medical countermeasure crises, contemporary media reports, and scholarly literature in sociology, emergency preparedness, health education, and risk and crisis communication.

The scenario is hypothetical; the infectious pathogen, medical countermeasures, characters, news media excerpts, social media posts, and government agency responses are entirely fictional.
 
Fictional for now. I downloaded a few copies to refer back to after seeing what plays out. They used a very similar "Fictional" playbook a year and a half ago just before the release of Covid. Another conspiracy coincidence?
 
That is correct, they tell us what they are going to do before they do it knowing that most will not actually pay attention. The guy is pure evil in my opinion. He has invested Billions of dollars in Vaccines and said it's all about the return on his money. What better way to create the return by finding ways to "need" more vaccines.
 
Shadowfax said:
That is correct, they tell us what they are going to do before they do it knowing that most will not actually pay attention. The guy is pure evil in my opinion. He has invested Billions of dollars in Vaccines and said it's all about the return on his money. What better way to create the return by finding ways to "need" more vaccines.
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It is rather strange that a Billionaire is put into a position where he gets to decide and act on who, where and how should be vaccinated and or intervene in their birth rates, by providing "tools" as he calls them to control populations. Since when do we put so much trust into one private citizen? One can watch and listen carefully to see this guy is playing on a level far beyond any private citizen/good Samaritan. If he is genuinely looking to help, great but if he turns out to have a global elitist agenda of some sort, well, lots of people will be screwed... It is a bit hard to figure him out.


The two videos are contradictory in their message IMHO... He talks about vaccines and hundred billion invested with a return of 20:1 from children making it in poor countries and then he talks about birth control population growth and "tools" to control population in another... Who is he to decide those things?

#Davos2019: Bill Gates On Global Healthcare #BQ - YouTube

A conversation with Bill Gates: Population growth - YouTube
 
I just watched a short clip from a PHD in Cali who took 1500 Positive marked covid samples from PCR tests and tested them the proper way only to find Influenza A and B. He sent samples to other well known university who tested and also found ZERO covid and all Seasonal Flu.

A group of doctors is now suing the CDC because they will not provide a good actual sample of covid, they claim they don't have one. How is it possible for the CDC to not have a known real sample if so many people have it?
 
Shadowfax said:
And that is exactly why I said that in a few years, I hope we all have a good laugh on my behalf because I would like to hope I am wrong.

Also, this first shot might not be the one, but the process was designed to see just how many willing participants there will be when they do decide to lace the injections if not already. Looks like they have an answer.

Do some more digging on population control and you will find numerous NGOs associated with Gates Foundation, the UN and more who are funding ways to depopulate.
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If you are so sure that depopulation is a major goal, why not go the easy route?... a few hundred nukes should do it...and they are readily available.:disbelief:

Perhaps best not to think about that just before bedtime...:weird:
 
TheOctopus said:
We have a few vaccines already HPV and Hep B both of which cause cancer. There are more vaccines being researched. Gene Therapy will be a big game changer in the future and being cancer free. At the same time we are trying to get to other planets to eventually colonize them... The problem of over population, planet damage and longer life spans are contradictory to each other... Obviously!

Sure, we can switch to lab grown/synthetic meats instead of raising cattle, they are working very successfully on that. I've read about the results, impressive if not a bit disturbing.

Bill Gates is buying up as much farmland as he can grab and now he owns half of all the farm land in the US. He is a big proponent of a vegetarian/synthetic meat generations to come.... Guess what, nothing stands still, everything will change as it always has.
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Amazing what $126 Billion can do.
 
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