This may devolve into a crazy discussion/thread on cables (as usual) but I want to ask anyway ...

Siltech because it is unique. Silver/Gold, no copper. The gold counteracts the negative properties of silver, but allows the positives (resolution, detail) to shine through. I have two full looms, so yeah, I'm all in.

I really like Shunyata for power.

Audioquest is fantastic for a more budget friendly cable.

Hi Mike,

Dave Cahoon from Zenwave Audio also makes Silver/Gold cables, at a very reasonable price. I recently bought the D4 interconnect, and I am incredibly happy with it -- great resolution and tone:

http://www.zenwaveaudio.com/product/d4-interconnect/

I bought it after I first tested a demo pair, which Dave sent me, in my system. I had him make a 1.5 meter custom cable which sounds identical to the 1 meter demo (driven from low impedance DAC output).
 
Do not fear my friend. I could be wrong but I believe the point was the more resolution your system is capable of the more likely you will hear benefit in a more expensive cable. There are so many brands now, it's really improbable to have a cost percentage, cables to gear. On one end you have boutique direct sellers where some have been known to have the "giant killer", there are I'm sure some snake oil and dressed to look the part, and there are even some cable like Analysis Plus who show measured results as a result of their cables, I think Wire World is doing that now, and maybe others. With that being said I fully believe not all audio effects and/or improvements can be measured.

The thing to do is listen for yourself and trust your own ears, you be the jusge of whether that cable is enough improvement to warrant what you'd have to lay out for them.

I personally wonder why anyone would spend multi thousands on gear then not spend for cables. Provided the improvement would be justified. Then again, if you couldn't hear at least some difference in better cables I go back to wonder if you can hear what your gear is truly capable of. Or, in other words why was the money spent on such extravagant gear when there seems to be a listening deficiency. Notice, I said listening opposed to hearing.

The truth is, again, you really have to try for yourself. Case in point, a dealer gave me a killer deal on some high dollar Siltech speaker cables, I already had the MXT New Yorker interconnects, so I was thrilled to get the higher level speaker cables. For whatever reason these cables just didn't sound right in my system, the highs/mids were good but lacked in the low end, maybe some odd impedance issue, who knows. I sent them back and purchased the same New Yorker level speaker cables and all was good. I can't explain why I heard, or , had the experience but my ears told me this wasn't going to fly.

Sort of the opposite with my current Clarus. When I first tried it I didn't like it, I tried one set of RCA's. I pretty much written them off. When I got my Pass gear I tried the XLR's and borrowed a second set as well so I could be fully balance from CD to power amp. I really just tried them again to appease the dealer because I had my eye on something else. Much to my surprise the Clarus was fabulous in that set up and the more I put into the loom the better it got.

I do recommend buying from a place who allows returns, and best, some dealers have lender cables they will let you try in your system.

So no matter what any of us say, experiment for yourself, then you know. It's not what you believe, it's what you actually hear.

Think that I asked the wrong question....I am actually terrified now :rolleyes:
 
Not so sure on that - with SF speakers, there are probably 4-5 amp recommendations that are commonly used and would be repeated. There are more like 30 cable recommendations on this thread.

And you know I don't believe in $30k cables :)

That's just a numbers game. It's far easier to try a different cable on your SFs than a different amp. But even in cableland, there are combinations that everybody seems to use, Wilson/dCS/Transparent, etc.

I'm fine with you not believing in $30k cables, same as you (likely) don't believe in a $30k tonearm. I'm *not* fine with you using substandard cables and under utilizing your not insignificant investment, all for $1k or so in proper cabling. And you heard what a proper tonearm did for your analog setup... Just sayin'...

I do agree cables are a pain in the ass, if I could get rid of spades forever, I would. But they exist, and they matter, unfortunately.


cheers,
Alex
 
So, what are some smooth, sweet and reasonably priced cables that you could recommend? I don't want mushy or flat. I am mainly curious to see what you guys think are the brands/models you either use or recommend. I am not looking to change anything because I am actually loving what I hear now.

I have a pair of Avanti Audio speaker cables made by Mike Chadwell aka MikeCh here on the forum (as well as a few other brands). I've had them several weeks now, I think, and they are absolutely wonderful. Clear, open, slightly sweet, full bass and articulate. Amazing, and for the money, stellar. I have Kimber Kable, a few one meter Siltechs, some Neotech (which I love too) and a few other assorted cables. I seem to change things up depending on the gear used and the connectors on the ends.

I am kind of mixing up speaker and interconnect recommendations but please have at it. I've only once used a full loom of the same brand. Now I kind of mix and match, again depending on what's on hand and what connectors I need and if single wire or bi-wire.

I use Cable Pro Vitality cables. Great cable for the price. They are OCC based like Audience Au24 and are easily their equal. I had both and ditched the Audience. Put the extra money in my pocket.
 
Basically the same cable for even less if you figure in the Canadian exchange rate.

http://audiosensibility.com/blog/pr...re-Speaker-Cables/p/15258110/category=2595835

I have used them with the Nola's for over a year and no urge to change at the moment, though I would like to give the Triode Wire Lab cables a test run. I bought a trio of Pete's PC's last month and have been impressed with them on the Amp, Preamp and DAC.
 
Joe

You've got an advantage with TWL as Pete's shop is just down the road from you. Would be worthwhile to watch them at work. From all accounts a great guy too.
 
+1 on TWL, Zenwave & Acoustic Zen

Most of my digital components, especially ones that uses smps power supply uses TWL Digital American with excellent results...Same with Zenwave D4 but its very sensitive to system specifics due to very high resolution. Other cables that I use and a great bang for the buck in terms of musicality Acoustic Zen interconnects and power cords. I probably have to spend 5 times more to get hardly 5% overall performance.
 
Think that I asked the wrong question....I am actually terrified now :rolleyes:
Well if you listen to KeithR too long you likely will be. I realize this is elementary, but i'm sure we can spot the difference between "I advocate" and "you should", and "Up to 50%" and "50%". Boring but important facts. And don't get me started on whether cables matter :rolleyes:.
 
Why don't we get you started on whether cables matter? I am pretty sure it will involve cost equals better. Seems to be a pattern. KeithR is actually a pretty savvy audiophile with a history. Other members actually pay attention to him.
 
Did anybody try the High Fidelity cables ? what has been your experience with magnetic conduction ?
 
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