The future of Tidal

Mike,
I hope Tidal is right about their future. If Tidal folds up, it would greatly diminish my enjoyment as an audiophile. 90% of my listening is streaming Tidal.
Anshul
 
apdoc2004 said:
Mike,
I hope Tidal is right about their future. If Tidal folds up, it would greatly diminish my enjoyment as an audiophile. 90% of my listening is streaming Tidal.
Anshul
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I for my part use Tidal HiFi for 100 % of my music listening , so it would be a great loss, i think.
 
Qobuz recently announced they were coming to the U.S. in early 2018 so there would be an alternative and may indicate that their ownership group knows something. No MQA, but instead Hi-Rez with no streaming issues. If he sells or is bought out most likely candidates would again be Apple unless his partner Sprint's parent company takes it over.
 
You can also get Deezer as an alternate solution. The only problem right now is majority of the streamers do not have app support for it.
 
Jack said:
Qobuz recently announced they were coming to the U.S. in early 2018 so there would be an alternative and may indicate that their ownership group knows something. No MQA, but instead Hi-Rez with no streaming issues. If he sells or is bought out most likely candidates would again be Apple unless his partner Sprint's parent company takes it over.
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I just don't see Sprint going after full ownership of Tidal. Sprint's Q2 was a net loss of $48 million this year. But who knows Sprint does some odd things.
 
Chris

I agree with you as I didn't think the partnership made a lot of sense to start with but no telling what the group that owns them now was thinking and maybe they were waiting on it to play out to execute a takeover/buyout at favorable terms or force a sale.
 
When I asked HDTracks if they would start selling MQA files, they replied not at first. They said they were starting a streaming service, and that would have MQA. When this will start is unknown to me.
 
mdp632 said:
Meridian should acquire them.
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I hope you're joking.
Meridian has been seriously in the red for years, which is why we have dearly needed revenue stream MQA.
If Tidal goes, my guess is Meridian wouldn't be far behind, unless someone else acquires them.
 
You do realize that Spotify is not making money either. I am not sure how much they are losing but the streaming business model is still not sorted out yet.

I definitely hope that Tidal fixes their issue because that is how I get almost all of my must now.
 
AJ Soundfield said:
I hope you're joking.
Meridian has been seriously in the red for years, which is why we have dearly needed revenue stream MQA.
If Tidal goes, my guess is Meridian wouldn't be far behind, unless someone else acquires them.
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From what I have heard you are correct about Meridian's financial woes. But how does MQA benefit Meridian since they are two separate companies.
 
still-one said:
You do realize that Spotify is not making money either. I am not sure how much they are losing but the streaming business model is still not sorted out yet.

I definitely hope that Tidal fixes their issue because that is how I get almost all of my must now.
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I really wonder where the $200 million went that Sprint forked over.
 
still-one said:
You do realize that Spotify is not making money either. I am not sure how much they are losing but the streaming business model is still not sorted out yet.

I definitely hope that Tidal fixes their issue because that is how I get almost all of my must now.
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+1

I've said since the MQA beginning that Tidal was a bigger risk than MQA. That said, someone will fold in the content company, I'm pretty sure of that. They can buy it super cheap.

Also, Spotify Hifi may arrive in 2018 - it was in beta testing earlier this year. That would be big big news for the high end.
 
KeithR said:
Spotify Hifi may arrive in 2018 - it was in beta testing earlier this year. That would be big big news for the high end.
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Lowly "smeared" (lol) 16/44 for the "Hi end", like what emits from a Chord Dave or Lampi? :disbelief:
The horror, the horror...
 
How bad does a business model have to be to have a cash burn rate that creates losses of a little over $4 million a month on average? These are essentially files on servers that at any rate do not cost in the millions to stream. How much do the record labels charge for licencing fees?

Assuming Tidal has inflated figures - with 500,000 subscribers they still should have at least $5 million in revenue a month for their basic service.
 
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