Thales Tonearm

a.wayne said:
Mordante, What is an Ayre sound ..? What is a Krell Sound?...
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Ayre is IMHO more laid back warm sounding not so Dynamic

Krell much more in your face more Dynamic but also more prone to listener fatigue

Years back I had a Ayre integrated amp on test. But did not buy it. Not because it was bad but is was too laid back for me.

I knew someone who used Ayre and Sonus Faber very warm sounding, but not very engaging.
 
Thanks for explaining your position and I'm of similar opinion too. BTW, the later Krells (FPB-CX and later models ) have better detail than earlier versions without the in your face bright attack .


Regards
 
Kuoppis said:
The reason for asking is that I find the Thales fascinating, except for the fact there is no mechanical lift. With my clumsy hands I would not want to rely on lifting the arm with my fingers.
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The arm works in the same way as my Mission 774, you just push the lever at the rear of the arm, that lifts the arm to, you then push the arm across then pull the lever towards you and the arm gently drops onto the LP.

Much safer than a finger lift 😉
 
byrdparis said:
i will get one to play with soon.
this arm is very very interesting!
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Byrdparis,

did you have the chance already to listen to a Thales TT with the Simplicity II arm? I will very much appreciate to read your experiences with the TTT. I am considering myself about purchasing a Thales, so I am very curious.

Thanks in advance. :-)
 
AlterEgo said:
Byrdparis,

did you have the chance already to listen to a Thales TT with the Simplicity II arm? I will very much appreciate to read your experiences with the TTT. I am considering myself about purchasing a Thales, so I am very curious.

Thanks in advance. :-)
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Hi.
actually i'm writing my review for HIFIMUSIC.CO.IL those days, about the simplicity II -
i have it for a few weeks now with an EMT JSD 6 Platinum.
I didn't got the TT just the arm and cart from Micha hubert (Thales owner) via the local dealer.

i can tell you all kind of stuff (and i will), but if you didn't heard a proper linear arm in your life you are in for a really awesome surprise.
i have and had a lot of arms in my audiophile life. currently holding two on my C.A Master innovation - the near top of the line TT2 (linear arm) and their top pivot arm - the UNIversal.
the simplicity II is the best pivot arm i heard in my life period! its takes all the goodness of a linear tracking arm with near perfect line tracking across the LP
without the hustle and "problems" linear arms makers need to solve. its a fantastic tracking (one of the best i heard) with LOT of dynamics and musical involvement. but its still very very smooth and relax. with the new and expensive EMT cart i've got a lot of details and shining top end (not itching!) and equally good bass and mid bass (EMT strongest quality with lot of musical enjoyment).
its an arm to die for and if i didn't had my TT2, i probably would buy it in a second! (maybe il will buy it after all... :disbelief:) its the closer i got to my TT2 in the way every bit of the music on the record came out crystal clear! no inner-groove distortion, no nothing! you can hear what pressed on the vinyl from start to end in the most profound matter! (Thales got his SIM II to track 0.006% reject of a straight line - this is a huge! engineering triumph!)
i will buy Thales TT and arm combo blind folded! i kid you not.

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Thank´s a lot Byrdparis. That sounds very promising. I arranged an auditioning at home with my gear with the TTT and the Simplicity II with EMT JSD S75 for next Tuesday. I will compare it with the Transrotor Rondino FMD (with another cartridge as option: TR Figaro and a SME 5009 as option). I am very curious.

By the way which phono pre do you use with the TTT. Your XP-25? My dealer recommended a Tom Evans and Micha Huber a Holborne. Your thought´s?
 
AlterEgo said:
Thank´s a lot Byrdparis. That sounds very promising. I arranged an auditioning at home with my gear with the TTT and the Simplicity II with EMT JSD S75 for next Tuesday. I will compare it with the Transrotor Rondino FMD (with another cartridge as option: TR Figaro and a SME 5009 as option). I am very curious.

By the way which phono pre do you use with the TTT. Your XP-25? My dealer recommended a Tom Evans and Micha Huber a Holborne. Your thought´s?
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Your welcome.
that is interesting. hope you like it, i guess it will be a rewarding auditioning evan if you decide not to take it (my assumption is you will).

i am using my XP25 with all my arms and carts. i don't know that TE... so cant guess about it. if he can arrange it for you to hear...
which one you are using right now?
 
AlterEgo said:
Audionet Pam G2 + EPC

Tom Evans my dealer will bring with him. The Holborne I will discuss yesterday, if it is possible (probably not).
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The AUDIONET SET is very good. i don't think the TE will out preform it (but i never compered them)

i didn't knew the new holborne is out...
 
byrdparis said:
Hi.
actually i'm writing my review for HIFIMUSIC.CO.IL those days, about the simplicity II -
i have it for a few weeks now with an EMT JSD 6 Platinum.
I didn't got the TT just the arm and cart from Micha hubert (Thales owner) via the local dealer.

i can tell you all kind of stuff (and i will), but if you didn't heard a proper linear arm in your life you are in for a really awesome surprise.
i have and had a lot of arms in my audiophile life. currently holding two on my C.A Master innovation - the near top of the line TT2 (linear arm) and their top pivot arm - the UNIversal.
the simplicity II is the best pivot arm i heard in my life period! its takes all the goodness of a linear tracking arm with near perfect line tracking across the LP
without the hustle and "problems" linear arms makers need to solve. its a fantastic tracking (one of the best i heard) with LOT of dynamics and musical involvement. but its still very very smooth and relax. with the new and expensive EMT cart i've got a lot of details and shining top end (not itching!) and equally good bass and mid bass (EMT strongest quality with lot of musical enjoyment).
its an arm to die for and if i didn't had my TT2, i probably would buy it in a second! (maybe il will buy it after all... :disbelief:) its the closer i got to my TT2 in the way every bit of the music on the record came out crystal clear! no inner-groove distortion, no nothing! you can hear what pressed on the vinyl from start to end in the most profound matter! (Thales got his SIM II to track 0.006% reject of a straight line - this is a huge! engineering triumph!)
i will buy Thales TT and arm combo blind folded! i kid you not.

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Great to hear another who has had the opportunity to listen to the Simplicity II. To listen to one is to own one.

Enjoy
 
XV-1 said:
To listen to one is to own one.
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byrdparis said:
i will buy Thales TT and arm combo blind folded! i kid you not.
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How true both statements are. :)

The last week I had the chance to listen the following combinations:

1. Thales Compact II with Simplicity II & EMT JSD S75
2. Transrotor Rondino Nero FMD & SME 5009 + TR Figaro
3. Acoustic Signature Novum & TA-3000

As Phono Preamps I used an Audionet PAM G2 incl. EPC and a Tom Evans The GroovePlus SRX mkII.

By a clear margin the Thales combi with the Tom Evans was the best solution for my ears. The reproduction was well defined in all parts of the complete sound spectrum , detailed but not intrusive with a pleasant touch analogue. The mid and high frequencies were very open and with exceptional details. The bas reproduction was dynamic and well contured.

The Thales-combi was the first analogue gear which for me was better or at least at eye level with my digital solution with the Purist Statement. I am still excited about this feast for my ears.

I also combined the Thales with the Audionet to hear possible differences between the both phono pre´s. The Audionet is a good set, but the Tom Evans is a better match to the Thales.
 
thanks for this fast review.
glad you like it. the Thales product are exceptional good!
 
AlterEgo said:
I like it so much, that I pulled the trigger on Saturday. :peace:
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congrats!!! very few things can compete with the Thales simplicity II... (my TT2 for instance, but its a VERY hard arm to maintain!)
you made a wonderful peak, i think you will be more exciting as time will goes on and on realise its a Damn superb arm!
 
AlterEgo said:
I like it so much, that I pulled the trigger on Saturday. :peace:
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Congrats. You will love living with and spinning records with the Thales.

Hard to believe I am approaching 12 months with mine and I love it. It is the real deal for tonearms.
 
XV-1 said:
Congrats. You will love living with and spinning records with the Thales.

Hard to believe I am approaching 12 months with mine and I love it. It is the real deal for tonearms.
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What kind of cart would you recommend for the Thales?
 
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