Stillpoints and System Foundation
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On the surface, I agree with highEndguy. I have never run across a Linn owner successfully using our products under their Linn table. Not at all sure about the motor issue with respect to the LPI.
Yes, lots of TT owners are using our products with their respective tables. I use Ultra 5s replacing the OEM feet of the plinth and 6/32 Ultra Minis replacing the OEM feet of the motor pod of my VPI Aries. Prior to doing so I was looking at a TT upgrade. Not now. Have added the 12" 3D arm and will soon replace the acrylic platter with the new aluminum platter used on current production models.
John
highEndguy
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I tried it john with no positive results
Paul
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By Google Translator ;
Ultra Mini is the smallest and the most affordable accessories Stillpoints offer vibration and although delivered in small, colorful box is due to its extremely inconspicuous size could easily fit in the sleeve, in which cigars are sold. Of course, without annotations about the dangers of smoking. Their compact shape comprises two elements made of steel - of the body and fixedly attached rotatable "plate". Inside each of these audiophile thimble is placed decoupling ceramic ball and only the imagination and the needs of the user depends on how you set them under their precious devices. Browsing the depths of the internet I came across the information that the manufacturer ensures that when you use four instead of three bases will round improvement of 25%. I have no clue how she looked methodology comparisons and analysis of the results, but with a comprehensive set of four coasters, there was nothing in the way of własnousznie verify these assertions. Looking at the above declarations of only from the economic icałkowicie objectively must admit that it seems quite fair approach to the issue, since the difference between three and czteroelementowym set a deal is just 25%. With such a small contact area with which we have to do in the case of Ultra Mini setting most of the devices on three plays will require attention not only time, but also the corporate omissions feet and find points of support on the bottom panel to get as much stability. I mention this because in the latter case Franc Ceramic Disc Audio Accessories Classic upper plates firmly "held" devices are placed on it by Stillpointsach for peace of mind better service carried out using the remote control rather than from the front panel by pressing the buttons. In the case of top-loaderów, or beztackowych players discs are loaded from the top (eg. Ayon, CEC, Reimyo) suggest, however, save yourself the nerves and immediately obtain the set of four pieces, to plant them and forget about the topic. I do not know you, but I just peace of mind and lack of fear that at some point the player to pardon gibnie completely covered both declared by the manufacturer improve the tone (psychophysical aspect) and were completely adequate for the difference in price.
But from the side of the sound, to paraphrase Winston Churchill - never in the history of the Hi-Fi so many (audiophiles) could not owe so much improvement so small accessories. Maybe it's too pompous and spoiled all the surprise introduction, but whatever. Stillpointsy just work and what they do with the sound can not be seen in terms other than the only positive. Here there is no place either on a "but", or the "I think".
At first, the podłożeniu the Ayon CD 1SX got the impression as if the system started to play slightly quieter. But it was so much a momentary impression that wrong. Hastily made to verify the observed phenomena using commonly available, practically on any platform, software to measure dB reaching us showed zero differences. It quickly became clear that the source of this state of affairs lies elsewhere. This volume does not change, but ... have been eliminated from the signal distortion artifacts that cause responsible for the urgency, expansive sound. Without this "attraction" of the background has simply become black and the sound of individual instruments / voices cleaner, smoother, more natural. Konturowość also has improved virtual sources and their location on the suggestive scene skepticism. Do you hear more sounds? Not necessarily, it's not about the quantity and quality goes. No background noise, the background generated along with the audio signal and not around us, in our room made it so far hidden in the background details become more present, noticeable, but they do not suddenly appear out of nowhere, because the whole time there they were, but we did not take any notice. It was clearly, but not by the way sharpening and cleaning.
Another thing - sibilance. In real life, we hear them all the time. Languages are more or less "rustling", there are people, even among musicians - singers with a speech impediment, or simply spluttering and if we associate with them, meeting, talking, or listening to their "unplugged" everything is perfectly OK. The problems start when you sit down in front of his beloved equipment, turn on the disc and ... sibilance can sound as nice as passing a school board fingernails. The presence of these oversimplifications Stillpointsów quite significantly reduces. We deliberately used the phrase "eliminates" and not "moderates" as semantically difference between these words might be small, but the audio was a "little" means to be or not to be for a specific component. Thus eliminating, by. Ultra Mini is not to rounding, withdrawal, or all sorts of hisses stępianiu emanating from the human mouth and depriving them of the current in the recording of the grain size and angularity.
Stillpoints Ultra Mini is the most inconspicuous of anti-vibration accessory with which so far had to deal with. But just in case their size almost does not matter, because even though you can not see their work and the effect of their presence in the audio track is surprisingly ... neutral. Nay, even natural, because they sound rather than transform restore sound familiar from natural live sound. Is it good or bad you have to assess themselves, but for me, quite subjectively looking at the effect of the above phenomenon is by all means welcome and perfectly fits into the framework of the Hi-Fi. High fidelity is a high fidelity, the pursuit of quality as close as possible to the original, or the sounds we hear live, preferably natural, given sauté, the least processed, preserving their natural taste and texture. Stillpoints Ultra Mini that's what they do - allow you to discover the music again in the form in which the assumption should be reproduced.
Marcin Olszewski
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We'll talk about it with Polish distributor ;-)
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Just acquired (9) Stillpoint SS.
Do you think I would get the best performance from these under my speakers (4) each speaker, or under my both DA/preamp and 2 mono-amps?
Since my speakers weigh about 600lbs each, I would like to maybe know ahead before attempting to put these under them - then have to move them to try elsewhere.
Thanks!
Do you think I would get the best performance from these under my speakers (4) each speaker, or under my both DA/preamp and 2 mono-amps?
Since my speakers weigh about 600lbs each, I would like to maybe know ahead before attempting to put these under them - then have to move them to try elsewhere.
Thanks!
MtnHam
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Generally, the wisdom is to put them under the speakers first, then the power distribution/conditioning devices, then the preamp/amps, and then the sources. Because of the weight of your speakers, you really need the Ultra 5's. Thus, I would skip them for now and move on to the other components. Experimentation is the name of the game.
highEndguy
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Each Ultra S can hold 1,000 pounds so you are good to try there
Prepare your self to be amaze
Prepare your self to be amaze
nile49
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Does anyone here have any feedback or heard any feedback about using the the new spikes with Ultra SSs under speakers? In comparison to using regular Stillpoints with hardhats on carpet?
Good question.
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Here's something I discovered re: Stillpoints, that I found very curious, and others probably would as well. When I got my Stillpoints, I already had protective brass discs to put under them so as not to mar the furniture. As a whim, I auditioned these (whoever the manufacturer was who made them) with the Stillpoint versisons. Mind you they looked the same...same size, heft, dimple on them....yet....the Stillpoint version sounded appreciably better than the faux discs. ...interesting...
highEndguy
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Just got them !!!!
Ultra 6
OMG
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Ultra 6
OMG
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the professor
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Looks impressive
allvinyl
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I would attribute this to the materials difference, brass .vs. stainless steel. We listened to a lot of different materials and kept coming back to the stainless for its tonal neutrality and speed. Other materials imparted different signatures, usually perceived as slower and less transparent. The same applies to our acrylic shelf .vs. the Grid shelf on our ESS racks. The acrylic sounds slower and laid back in a not-good way.
John
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Hi Ritmo, Loop4fun has them under his Lumin I believe. It was the first place he tried them and was pretty much sold. I think he started with Mini's but am not sure he upgraded to the Ultra SS' although I know he recently orderednd received a new set of SS. I'm sure he'll chime in about his experiences. OlskoolAnyone using Stillpoints under a Lumin? If so, which model? SS or Mini?
Was there an improvement? (Not that the Lumin needs much improvement)If so, in what way?
Thx!