Speaker cables for Shindo speakers

Agreed, at least in my system and a few others I know. But - honestly speaking - I've not heard them in a Shindo system, so I've said all I should say in this thread.
 
Jim Smith said:
Agreed, at least in my system and a few others I know. But - honestly speaking - I've not heard them in a Shindo system, so I've said all I should say in this thread.
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Your input is valuable. Maybe a WE speaker cable thread should be started for people to share their thoughts.
 
Not much to update yet, since I won't buy speaker cable until I get the speakers and try a few options.

However, I did get one set of Shindo IC's which I swapped for the Soundstrings - and they did improve things noticeably. I didn't expect more intense base, which I don't actually need, but it arrived with better control over lower registers. Everything got more crystal clear, in a smooth liquid way, like a bit of veil was also lifted from music. This is especially true for vinyl.

At this point, I'm leaning towards A23 cable as a cost effective choice and I'm looking forward to hearing Nordost too. Shindo speaker cable doesn't make sense at this point when greater sound-improvement-for-the-buck would surely come from a pre-amp upgrade, like a Masseto. My goal is all Shindo ICs, although my Harmonic Tech IC's sound great connecting the DirectStream to the Aurieges, definitely better than the SoundStrings ICs. BTW, the DirectStream continues to sound better with each day!
 
Cucumber_jones said:
This post kind of looks like spam to me.
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But you asked me where to buy those speaker cables and I told you with the link. Maybe you remember?
Do you really think I am running a shop in Japan and do spamming this forum with it? Foolish thought, isnt it?
 
Cucumber_jones said:
Schmitt, where did you get your WE wire from and what systems have you tried it in? Did you compare it against A23 wire as well?

I got mine from the same gentleman that Jeff Day did.

Was this specific wire used by WE for speaker wire runs? Do we know this.

I am confused as to why you are so defensive about this stuff.


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Maybe you forgot what you asked for...

Best regards,
Schmitt
 
Having followed the link before it was deleted, I can confirm it is a Japanese site selling some cables. Unless Schmitt is actually a covert dealer, which he denies, and this forum dis-allows dealer self-promotion, it wasn't spam.

However, I'm not much interested in ordering cables of which I have no knowledge. They might be wonderful, but I am asking for feedback from forum members that have recommendations based on listening experience. I have heard High Fidelity speaker cables with Shindo and it was great, but I didn't get to compare Steve's mothballed Shindo loom, so I can only surmise that Jack Roberts comparisons and ranking of these cables is correct.

I'm beginning to realize that most Shindo owners use Shindo or A23. It seems that my original question ensured that this thread would reach its point nearly immediately followed by devolution into bickering. Idle hands... Perhaps it was my bad.

At this point, unless anyone has heard Nordost with Shindo, I've gotten what I need here. Thanks everyone.
 
I'm a bit leery of making the jump on the WE cables. They've been advertised on eBay for years before Jeff's positive write up. How can you be sure they are authentic and in good condition?

I can recommend the A23, but haven't really done much comparing speaker cables in my Shindo system. As to interconnects, I recommend that users of Shindo electronics stick to the use of cables with switchcraft terminations to match the jacks on Shindo gear. Some poo poo this idea as a marketing ploy, but I've heard JH express his frustration with broken jacks on several occasions and I suspect that there is some truth to the idea that many modern IC terminations may be too big for the stock Shindo jacks. If you've ever purchased vintage Shindo, you are probably familiar with the hollowed out barely functioning inputs.


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kev313 said:
I'm a bit leery of making the jump on the WE cables. They've been advertised on eBay for years before Jeff's positive write up. How can you be sure they are authentic and in good condition?

I can recommend the A23, but haven't really done much comparing speaker cables in my Shindo system. As to interconnects, I recommend that users of Shindo electronics stick to the use of cables with switchcraft terminations to match the jacks on Shindo gear. Some poo poo this idea as a marketing ploy, but I've heard JH express his frustration with broken jacks on several occasions and I suspect that there is some truth to the idea that many modern IC terminations may be too big for the stock Shindo jacks. If you've ever purchased vintage Shindo, you are probably familiar with the hollowed out barely functioning inputs.


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Yep. I think it is important to use IC's that fit properly. I've used four kinds of IC's now - Shindo, Harmonic Technology, Soundstrings, and phono IC's I can't recall. Any IC's like the Harmonic Tech that tighten (by rotating the jack housing) are potential problems because they are either too loose or it's easy to forget that they are tightened and to try to remove them and potentially damage the amp jack. More than once, I've worried that I've done just that (gotta stop drinking so much scotch while listening). The Soundstrings IC's fit too tight for the amps, so they are relegated to my Almarro amp.

What a bummer to damage the amp jacks over something as simple as IC's.
 
Hello folks,

I am now using home made Altec speakers.
Since 15 days, I have been listening to them with my Wireworld Mini Eclipse 7 speaker cables. And a friend came at home and let me a pair of A23 cables to try.
I would like to ask Shindo amps / A23 cables owners this question :
Did you compare the A23 cables to other cables on your set up ? Or most of you did just apply the dealer's recommendation to use either Shindo speaker cables or A23 ?
I do not have enough listening to post any comment on my impressions.
 
So here are my conclusions: on my system, the WW mini Eclipse 7 is a much better cable. I have more weight overall and a better balance.
The A23 critically lacks some presence and definition in the bass and sounds too "high". The treble is overemphasized, less sweet and refined as the WW.
Overall it seems that the speakers are just smaller with the A23. The WW gives a much wider and bigger image and sounds more natural and liquid.
Well, at least I tried.
 
Well, maybe.... But buying WW cable is like financing terrorism. Maybe it was just my particular "dealer."

In any event, I've been using A23 for years. I'm open to new suggestions. I would not buy the Shindo cable. I can't wrap my head around those prices for cable. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that audio prices are a huge deterrent from my enjoyment of hifi. Even if I can afford it, I still feel guilty about the cost. Sorry for that digression, but it's relevant to my thinking on cables. Where the cost of cables so vastly exceeds material plus reasonable labor, results are difficult to predict and quantify, and other options exist, I'm going elsewhere.

Maybe the A23 was just not a match for your new speakers? That would be a surprise, I suppose, given Keith's altec preference. What are the details of your new speakers?


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