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So I'm going to be building a new computer this weekend assuming all the parts arrive as scheduled. Microsoft is giving away Windows 10 for people who already own Windows 7. I want to install a clean version of Windows 10 on my new computer and not install Windows 7 in order to upgrade to Windows 10. I went to a Microsoft site and burned a copy of Windows 10 to a DVDR disc. Microsoft calls it an ISO disc. My concern is whether or not this is a bootable version of Windows 10. Anybody know the answer??
 
You should be able to. Make the CD drive in the boot chain, but it should be by default.


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I'm in the same boat as you Mark. Found this page that references the "media creation tool". https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 From what I understand, just recently they are allowing a fresh install of 10 (not just an in place upgrade on a previous OS) that will accept your Win7 Key Code. Earlier this summer I understand that you had to do the in place upgrade to generate a unique hash of your hardware, then you could scrape it and put 10 on fresh as the hash would not have changed. This newest media creation tool is supposed to bypass that additional step if I understand correctly.

I'm going to wait and do my 10 upgrades after the new year when I have time to muck with it. I need to take a snapshot of each of my existing PC's with my imaging software and put those images on unique USB keys first before I do anything.

One nice thing (in theory) about doing the in place upgrade would be that you don't have to go around and re-install all your software applications and restore all your data files, but there are other drawbacks of doing the in place upgrade that outweigh the convenience for me.

I'm going to keep my eye on this thread since we likely have others here on AS that know far more about the upgrade process.
 
Thanks guys. I used the media creation tool to burn my disc.
 
Mark, I haven't played with Windows in a while (I'm still on XP on my desktop!). But back then, you needed a particular partition on the disk to boot from. A generic drive would not do it.

Did a search on creating a bootable USB drive and it does mention creating a special partition to boot from (Step 7). Maybe you can create a USB drive instead, or search for bootable DVD instructions instead.

Good luck!
 
Allen-This disc I burned is either bootable or it isn't. I will find out when I bring Frankenstein to life and the bios looks for a bootable drive. Mike says it is a bootable disc and it only makes sense that it should be. I have just never heard files referred to as ISO files before, but then I'm not a software guy. I will be building this computer over the weekend and I will find out soon enough.
 
Good luck. You may want to go into bios and confirm that the DVD drive is a bootable device. Should be usually.
 
Doesn't "ISO" just refer to the disc itself, rather than the files? That is, you are copying and burning the disc image, rather than assembling the files and then burning them to disc. It might be a way of ensuring that you get a bootable disc.
 
rbbert said:
Doesn't "ISO" just refer to the disc itself, rather than the files? That is, you are copying and burning the disc image, rather than assembling the files and then burning them to disc. It might be a way of ensuring that you get a bootable disc.
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Rob-I have no freaking idea which is why I posed the question here. All my parts arrived so I will start building soon.
 
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Thanks Rob. The MB, CPU, CPU fan, power supply, SSD HD and a 2TB HD are installed now.
 
rbbert said:
I hope it turns out well!
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It fired right up and I'm posting this from the new computer. The ISO Windows 10 I downloaded to a DVDR disc was bootable and worked like a champ so I was able to just do a clean install of Windows 10. It did ask for a product key so I used the product key that came with my Windows 7.
 
Very nice. I suspect my theory about why an ISO disc is correct but of course I have no real evidence for or against ( which would only matter for someone new heading down your path). Your experience is useful for the rest of us in any case, and in your case it should be time to start enjoying the music!
 
The Windows 10 is supposed to be for computers which already have a licensed copy of Windows 7 or 8. For a freshly built computer with no OS they are going to want that copy of Windows registered. Do not be surprised if they want a product key added and activated shortly. The free upgrade is per computer not just someone who has another computer with a legit copy of Windows. Don't be surprised, just saying.... and none of the !@#$%^ Microsoft !@#$%^ if they do because honestly, operating system cost something... It was pretty amazing that they gave current customers free upgrades....

By the way, if this does happen it is pretty simple to install Windows 7 and then do the upgrade. During the upgrade you can do a full clean install of Windows 10 anyway. The windows install really is tied to a computer. I totally understand any company protecting themselves... If you are building a new computer from scratch, one of the components that you also need to purchase is a copy of Windows. You cannot use one copy on multiple computers.... again, just saying.... (i.e. I have five computers which had five paid for copies on Windows 8.1, and now all five are running Windows 10).
 
Randy Myers said:
The Windows 10 is supposed to be for computers which already have a licensed copy of Windows 7 or 8. For a freshly built computer with no OS they are going to want that copy of Windows registered. Do not be surprised if they want a product key added and activated shortly. The free upgrade is per computer not just someone who has another computer with a legit copy of Windows. Don't be surprised, just saying.... and none of the !@#$%^ Microsoft !@#$%^ if they do because honestly, operating system cost something... It was pretty amazing that they gave current customers free upgrades....

By the way, if this does happen it is pretty simple to install Windows 7 and then do the upgrade. During the upgrade you can do a full clean install of Windows 10 anyway. The windows install really is tied to a computer. I totally understand any company protecting themselves... If you are building a new computer from scratch, one of the components that you also need to purchase is a copy of Windows. You cannot use one copy on multiple computers.... again, just saying.... (i.e. I have five computers which had five paid for copies on Windows 8.1, and now all five are running Windows 10).
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I think you missed what I said. The Windows 10 install disc which is available free allows you to perform a clean install of Windows 10 on a computer as long as you have the product key for Windows 7. At the beginning of the install process it asks you to enter your product key and once it verifies your product key is valid, it installs the Windows 10 operating system. No need to install your Windows 7 Home Pro or moblie home semi pro version first and then install Windows 10 over the Windows 7.
 
mep said:
I think you missed what I said. The Windows 10 install disc which is available free allows you to perform a clean install of Windows 10 on a computer as long as you have the product key for Windows 7. At the beginning of the install process it asks you to enter your product key and once it verifies your product key is valid, it installs the Windows 10 operating system. No need to install your Windows 7 Home Pro or moblie home semi pro version first and then install Windows 10 over the Windows 7.
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Ok, got ya. I just sick of people calling Microsoft names and then feel they deserve a "free' copy of Windows... :) Sorry that I mis-understood you :D... please accept my apology...
 
Randy Myers said:
The Windows 10 is supposed to be for computers which already have a licensed copy of Windows 7 or 8. For a freshly built computer with no OS they are going to want that copy of Windows registered. Do not be surprised if they want a product key added and activated shortly. The free upgrade is per computer not just someone who has another computer with a legit copy of Windows. Don't be surprised, just saying.... and none of the !@#$%^ Microsoft !@#$%^ if they do because honestly, operating system cost something... It was pretty amazing that they gave current customers free upgrades....

By the way, if this does happen it is pretty simple to install Windows 7 and then do the upgrade. During the upgrade you can do a full clean install of Windows 10 anyway. The windows install really is tied to a computer. I totally understand any company protecting themselves... If you are building a new computer from scratch, one of the components that you also need to purchase is a copy of Windows. You cannot use one copy on multiple computers.... again, just saying.... (i.e. I have five computers which had five paid for copies on Windows 8.1, and now all five are running Windows 10).
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I think you missed what I said. The Windows 10 install disc which is available free allows you to perform a clean install of Windows 10 on a computer as long as you have the product key for Windows 7. At the beginning of the install process it asks you to enter your product key and once it verifies your product key is valid, it installs the Windows 10 operating system. No need to install your Windows 7 Home Pro or moblie home semi pro version first and then install Windows 10 over the Windows 7.
 
The only thing I really don't like about my new computer is the Corsair case. I simply had no idea it was large enough to mount a 15" woofer inside and get bass down to .5Hz. I knew it was for ATX motherboards and the picture made it look like it was a reasonable size. The flip side of that is the case is divided into two compartments with one side being the "business" side which contains your MB and all of its attachments (CPU, CPU fan, RAM, video card, etc.). Because of the cable management system, all of the cables are hidden from view behind the partition that seperates the two sides of the case. This makes the MB side of the case look super clean in appearance instead of having 20' of cables all knotted up. That's why they give you a big window so you can look in and admire your handiwork.
 
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