since my cable thread was closed I could use some help

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I've got the litz wire already manufactured and I have the funds to get it extruded. It is getting close to becoming a reality. You speak of proof, I already mentioned I was seeking a strategic alliance, which means people to help me logistically. The dealer I just finished with used thousands of feet of my wire to place internally in everything he made, the 4,000 feet of external cabling disappeared with the simple explanation that it went to samples, I guess he thought I fell of the turnup truck. I know of one dealer who told me that he spent big money on some one metered sets of cable. He has now taken on the roll of advisor, so to speak. My getting cable to Mike will happen, but first I am going to get this off the ground.
 
I am following this thread of yours Keith. You may have detractors but just keep your cool. The cables will speak for itself. I am looking forward with great anticipation the review to come. I just hope you can expedite the review sample. But anyway, good luck to you. I hope you realize your vision at the soonest possible time!
 
Bandor - I wish you the best of luck with your ongoing cable development, and am pleased that I was incorrect after reading confirmation of your plan to still provide product samples to Mike. I look forward to hearing about his experience once he has the chance to properly evaluate their performance.
 
bandor said:
I have been sourcing local companies to terminate the cable I am producing and could seriously use some suggestions for good rca plugs to use. This will be a high end cable and my first dealer in Southern Calif gave me an idea where it will be priced, and since it is going to be an expensive cable I need a high quality plug to be used in the process.
Any suggestions for suitable rca plugs will be greatly appreciated. I've received a mixed reaction from this community but if I could avail myself of your good taste and judgement to offer suggestions I would be honored to possibly make a selection from something that came from this forum. I don't know if I'm breaking some forum policy by asking for this advice and If I am I will go quietly into the night until you read about my cable after it's reviewed.
He, who laughs last, doesn't catch on too quickly.
Any suggestions will be thoroughly researched by me, and thanks in advance.
Keith
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For me WBT is still the king.

WBT-USA
 
I don't want to add huge expense to a cable just for the name wbt, I was considering some better furutech FT-111 rca plugs and some of the
minimalist rca plugs with high quality small bits of copper contacts might be okay but strain relief can be a problem, and I thank you all for your
positive comments. I still say, imagine an audio signal going down a wire that is so small as to be invisible, what might the outcome be??? I know
for sure, and you will soon discover
 
:skeptical: I would want to see a different geometry for XLR. 2 core with a braided shield doesn't particularly excite me. That geometry is plentiful in the market.

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I was interested in using the bullet plugs as they will provide a grommet size of my choosing for the back of the plug and I
will have them all professionally terminated and filled with a silicon hot melt adhesive .
I have contacted ETI eichmann and decided that the bullet plugs may be my best option to coincide with my less is more theory. They have signed a non disclosure or sorts and seem willing to take this to the next step. They will provide instant credibility in the audio world, I'll keep you posted on how this is going. I have always been afraid of going it alone but I've got most parts in place, I'm ready to build the cable have it terminated and the last part of the equation and having instant credibility would be great.
 
Shindo uses lightweight Switchcraft RCA connectors to terminate his silver cables. (Interconnects) The extreme light mass contributes to what he prefers sound wise, as I understand it.
 
I've listened to every gauge of wire in existence, that would be two sets of interconnect cables and one
set of speaker cabes , I've listened to all copper and some silver. I know what 24 gauge sounds like and
I will not say anything else about that so as not to be rude. The audio cable game has become a simple
matter of hiring somebody with creative writing skills, inventing a cool sounding technology and hoping
somebody buys into it. That is why almost every cable can be describe as having certain attributes, liquid
mids, dark high end, muddy base etc.
 
Alright Keith - enough. You say you won't be rude, and then you are. I'm growing VERY tired of this.
 
With all the abuse I've taken lately, I'm not sure what I've done. I did have an interesting conversation with the folks down in Australia, they sent me a non disclosure, and Thursday I'm sending them wire
samples, and they might wind up being my strategic partner, so I'm hoping, Once again I can only apologize for any comment made in the heat of the moment. Mike, I haven't forgotten about you and I must get my 3rd build done before I can take on any requests. You have been pretty cordial and kind to me at the same time and I can only thank you for your kindness and understanding. I know I've mad some out there statements, but I stand ready to back them up, but what I've got is the real deal and with a bit of patience that will become clear.
 
Bandor,

Please take your Super Duper Cable somewhere else. We AS guys had enough of it.

We all wish you luck but STOP, PLEASE STOP !!!! With the bad comments of your future
competitors .
Your comments are very rude and All of us that invested so much $$$ on cables don't want to
hear that we are ignorant people that buy just because some good writing

So please, please go do your thing and let us the ignorant people be happy with our
investments

Best regards,

Nelson
 
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I find it humourous that the critique of other manufacturers cables use of creative writing and crazy high prices finds its home with Bandor's choice to price his in the high end bracket and calls them the fluid that runs through the veins of the gods :)
Posturing as though you are the expert is pompous, especially without having earned the credibility. Try a little humility and perhaps call the product "simply good cables" if you think creative writing is bad for marketing.
 
tunes said:
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I find it humourous that the critique of other manufacturers cables use of creative writing and crazy high prices finds its home with Bandor's choice to price his in the high end bracket and calls them the fluid that runs through the veins of the gods :)
Posturing as though you are the expert is pompous, especially without having earned the credibility. Try a little humility and perhaps call the product "simply good cables" if you think creative writing is bad for marketing.
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Didn't Bandor say that by using a certain brand of RCA connectors it would give his cables "instant credibility?" I'm pretty sure he did. Apparently it's the connectors that give a cable credibility and not the cable quality itself.

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I have contacted ETI eichmann and decided that the bullet plugs may be my best option to coincide with my less is more theory. They have signed a non disclosure or sorts and seem willing to take this to the next step. They will provide instant credibility in the audio world, I'll keep you posted on how this is going. I have always been afraid of going it alone but I've got most parts in place, I'm ready to build the cable have it terminated and the last part of the equation and having instant credibility would be great.
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Some famous cable manufacturers over the years have had people say these same things said here against Bandor. But .... they actually produced cables. This is the difference here!

All talk until "THE CABLES" are actually released into the wild. Until then, they are a "wild" pipe dream that should be ignored. HERE and EVERYWHERE else.

Have you ever noticed that before they are released, a Good movie never advertises that it the BEST MOVIE ever? Only the crapy ones advertise that they are the best.
 
the professor said:
some famous cable manufacturers over the years have had people say these same things said here against bandor. But .... They actually produced cables. This is the difference here!

All talk until "the cables" are actually released into the wild. Until then, they are a "wild" pipe dream that should be ignored. Here and everywhere else.

Have you ever noticed that before they are released, a good movie never advertises that it the best movie ever? Only the crapy ones advertise that they are the best.
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lmao !
 
Since I'm on my third generation of cable and between 15-20,000 feet of cable have been used, I would hardly call myself a
newbie with a pipe dream. Are you serious with your haughty accusations , and negative conjecture. Professor, you are guilty of
making uncivil comments that are not only rude but inaccurate as well. Only difference is I'm going out on my own to bring this cable to market myself. I mentioned that I had a dealer who was very secretive in how he disposed of all that cable, thousands and thousands of feet. I know he did wind up ordering hook up wire for everything so that he could externally and internally wire everything in the signal path that he sold. He told me that anywhere that he didn't use the wire, the sound was degraded.
 
Well said

I sit here corrected


bandor said:
Since I'm on my third generation of cable and between 15-20,000 feet of cable have been used, I would hardly call myself a
newbie with a pipe dream. Are you serious with your haughty accusations , and negative conjecture. Professor, you are guilty of
making uncivil comments that are not only rude but inaccurate as well. Only difference is I'm going out on my own to bring this cable to market myself. I mentioned that I had a dealer who was very secretive in how he disposed of all that cable, thousands and thousands of feet. I know he did wind up ordering hook up wire for everything so that he could externally and internally wire everything in the signal path that he sold. He told me that anywhere that he didn't use the wire, the sound was degraded.
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