since my cable thread was closed I could use some help

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Somebody please tell me what dealer rewires the gear he sells. I can't think of one. A dealer using 15,000-20,000 ft of wire?? I would love to see an invoice that shows Bandor sold that much cable, but I won't sit on a picket fence waiting to see it. I twice asked to see pictures of his JOB amp with his cables attached to it and haven't seen anything that remotely resembles a JOB amp at his house with his cables.

Everything is shrouded in mystery, secrecy, and nonsense while disparaging real cable companies that have earned solid reputations in the audiophile community.
 
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OK bandor, let's talk business: send me a few looms of your cables. I'll pay for them COD and if they are that good I'm ready to take over the (exclusive) distribution in Europe. However, if these are no better than other "brand name" cables I'll send them back to you for a full refund, no question asked. Don't worry about me copying them, just have your lawyer prepare a full NDA agreement and I will gladly sign.
I talked to my associates and we are ready to invest USD 50,000 in your business, provided it's worth it!

P.S. We also have full access to some pretty good "creative writers", so advertising would be on us!
 
iosiP
I appreciate the offer but I am currently in talks with ETI (Eichmann) regarding us joining forces. Since they have a great deal of audio credibility, in the end, I'm sure there will be a number of distributors world wide. This thing has become very surreal for me because i, and my band of loyal supporters. Your offer is generous and I will be sending you a personal message. In my message to you I included my California pacific time zone phone number. I have a patent which everyone laughed at, but what it suggests is nothing to laugh at, please call per my request,
thanks
Keith
 
You're welcome! I'm used to helping start-up businesses (in IT, to be specific) and to the problems caused by the silly EU regulations.
I'm also an audiophile so I would like to be involved in the industry, but never had the balls to change course: right now, I just help the existing dealers run their business.

P.S. I know at least a brand that gains by having their products rewired with a particular cable... I won't name names, but looking at the internal wiring of many expensive components sometime leaves me scratching my head!
 
It is only 6:30 pm pacific time, now would be a good time to call, or I will call you if you would pm me your number, whichever
thanks
 
mep said:
Somebody please tell me what dealer rewires the gear he sells. I can't think of one. A dealer using 15,000-20,000 ft of wire?? I would love to see an invoice that shows Bandor sold that much cable, but I won't sit on a picket fence waiting to see it. I twice asked to see pictures of his JOB amp with his cables attached to it and haven't seen anything that remotely resembles a JOB amp at his house with his cables.

Everything is shrouded in mystery, secrecy, and nonsense while disparaging real cable companies that have earned solid reputations in the audiophile community.
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Mep,

This is uncalled for. Keith's feedback is quoted on the JOB site and if he didnt order one, I would have heard from my contact there. I am glad to see the picture confirms it.

While I dont agree with Keith's approach about talking up a product that he has not yet made and encouraging this unproductive bater, I would not go so far as to besmirch his integrity.

Keith, a word of advice from Yoda:
Do
or dont do
There is no "try".
 
bandor said:
iosiP
I appreciate the offer but I am currently in talks with ETI (Eichmann) regarding us joining forces. Since they have a great deal of audio credibility, in the end, I'm sure there will be a number of distributors world wide. This thing has become very surreal for me because i, and my band of loyal supporters. Your offer is generous and I will be sending you a personal message. In my message to you I included my California pacific time zone phone number. I have a patent which everyone laughed at, but what it suggests is nothing to laugh at, please call per my request,
thanks
Keith
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Stop talking, start doing! You are just going around in circles and raising your blood pressure.

Make announcements AFTER the ink is dry. Doing so publicly beforehand jeopardizes the deals.

A word to the WISE is sufficient!
 
iosiP said:
You're welcome! I'm used to helping start-up businesses (in IT, to be specific) and to the problems caused by the silly EU regulations.
I'm also an audiophile so I would like to be involved in the industry, but never had the balls to change course: right now, I just help the existing dealers run their business.

P.S. I know at least a brand that gains by having their products rewired with a particular cable... I won't name names, but looking at the internal wiring of many expensive components sometime leaves me scratching my head!
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Where in EU are you?

I am in CH (on the outside, but in the heart...LoL)
 
wisnon said:
Stop talking, start doing! You are just going around in circles and raising your blood pressure.

Make announcements AFTER the ink is dry. Doing so publicly beforehand jeopardizes the deals.

A word to the WISE is sufficient!
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Good point. This reminds me of a co-worker a few years ago who thought he had a new job, and was going around saying how much his current job, and management, sucked. Then the job offer fell apart. Oops!
 
I only know of one Aussie vendor that would give you the NDA time of day. Cameron is your best chance here. I still think that you need different geometries for each type of application.
 
bandor said:
they didn't rewire gear ,they were manufactured new per their spec with my cable from the factory. MEP, I don't have anything to prove to you, are you serious that your opinion means anything to me
here are pics of my Job amp in my tv stand along with my first run of black cable terminated with Bullet plugs

Ichor Cable Photos by keithhenry99 | Photobucket
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What happened to the pink/red RCA plug on the right? It's crookeder than a dog's leg.

bandor cable.jpg
 
I know I'm just a new kid in town, but may I humbly suggest both camps take a break?
For bandor: please stop disparaging other cable manufacturers until you come with a finished product of your own. The product itself would speak louder and clearer than you about what other manufacturers got wrong.
For everyone else: just wait until the first batch of cables is ready, get a loom for testing and then you can decide if the emperor is dressed in silk or has no clothes.

Sorry, I do not want to look like I'm patronizing anyone, just think that this argument stands out like a mole on the nice face of kindness I found on this forum. We all share the love for music, so why drip vinegar in our Martinis?
 
iosiP, you are right, somehow this thread, and the previous, has taken our friendly forum sideways. I think your suggestion is a wise one. I was going to offer another comment but you've made me reconsider.

I will be patiently waiting to hear some comments once the wires are public.
 
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