Shunyata 6000S V2 Review

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We just built a new home with special attention to AC delivery including a dedicated Sub panel 6' from the system terminating into high end outlets which measure only 50 mv of line noise. Believing we had a good Power Conditioner and low line noise measurements if anybody asked me if line noise had any significant impact on my listening experience I would have said no. That changed Saturday when my local dealer asked me to home demo a 6000S V2. I was wrong, AC prior to the installation of the 6000s V2 was having major negative influence on what I was hearing. Over my thirty years in the hobby I have had many power conditioners in my system or at home for demo. Some helped a little, some hurt. Most were of very good reputation including a few variations of the Shunyata Hydra. Some were only to be used in parallel but none sounded better with my amps plugged into them until now. Up to this point I had mostly considered Power Conditioners as a "feel good " power strip offering no significant sonic value. The Demo unit is silver and I need a black to match the system. The dealer needs his demo back but I don't want to be one day without it while I wait for the black one. I may very well buy the demo so I don't have to be without it and when the black one comes in put the silver one in my second system. Until I tried the 6000Sv2 at home there was only half a chance I was going to buy a new power conditioner. It may now be two. As far a describing the listening experience? I will just say that even if you don't think line noise is an issue you won't really know until its gone. Try one
 
We just built a new home with special attention to AC delivery including a dedicated Sub panel 6' from the system terminating into high end outlets which measure only 50 mv of line noise. Believing we had a good Power Conditioner and low line noise measurements if anybody asked me if line noise had any significant impact on my listening experience I would have said no. That changed Saturday when my local dealer asked me to home demo a 6000S V2. I was wrong, AC prior to the installation of the 6000s V2 was having major negative influence on what I was hearing. Over my thirty years in the hobby I have had many power conditioners in my system or at home for demo. Some helped a little, some hurt. Most were of very good reputation including a few variations of the Shunyata Hydra. Some were only to be used in parallel but none sounded better with my amps plugged into them until now. Up to this point I had mostly considered Power Conditioners as a "feel good " power strip offering no significant sonic value. The Demo unit is silver and I need a black to match the system. The dealer needs his demo back but I don't want to be one day without it while I wait for the black one. I may very well buy the demo so I don't have to be without it and when the black one comes in put the silver one in my second system. Until I tried the 6000Sv2 at home there was only half a chance I was going to buy a new power conditioner. It may now be two. As far a describing the listening experience? I will just say that even if you don't think line noise is an issue you won't really know until its gone. Try one

Great review. Power does matter. And many don’t know they have a noise problem until the noise is gone.
 
We just built a new home with special attention to AC delivery including a dedicated Sub panel 6' from the system terminating into high end outlets which measure only 50 mv of line noise. Believing we had a good Power Conditioner and low line noise measurements if anybody asked me if line noise had any significant impact on my listening experience I would have said no. That changed Saturday when my local dealer asked me to home demo a 6000S V2. I was wrong, AC prior to the installation of the 6000s V2 was having major negative influence on what I was hearing. Over my thirty years in the hobby I have had many power conditioners in my system or at home for demo. Some helped a little, some hurt. Most were of very good reputation including a few variations of the Shunyata Hydra. Some were only to be used in parallel but none sounded better with my amps plugged into them until now. Up to this point I had mostly considered Power Conditioners as a "feel good " power strip offering no significant sonic value. The Demo unit is silver and I need a black to match the system. The dealer needs his demo back but I don't want to be one day without it while I wait for the black one. I may very well buy the demo so I don't have to be without it and when the black one comes in put the silver one in my second system. Until I tried the 6000Sv2 at home there was only half a chance I was going to buy a new power conditioner. It may now be two. As far a describing the listening experience? I will just say that even if you don't think line noise is an issue you won't really know until its gone. Try one

Very consistent with my experience. I've been using Shunyata power distributors for about a decade now, and while they've all been excellent, the Denali 6000/S V2 represents a real technological breakthrough because its the first one I know of that can provide > 64dB of noise reduction while not impacting the most important requirement for any power distributor, dynamic transient current delivery. When the rectifiers in component's power supply snap open during a dynamic or transient passage in the music, they pull hard on the AC line for current, and the inductance of the line resists the much-needed in-rush of current. This is where the technological advances of the Denali 6000/S V2 represents a real breakthrough, because it allows for this current to be delivered while simultaneously providing significant noise reduction. And, these two functions generally do not go hand-in-hand, and in the power distributors from other companies, they generally conflict with one another. I.e., make one response, e.g., noise reduction, better, and the other, e.g. current delivery, gets worse.

Its also important to use NR power cords on components in conjunction with power distributors, because the NR filters on these power cords prevents noise from the component's internal power supply from going back out from the component, to "dirty up" the current internal in the power distributor. Think of the current in the PD as a swimming pool with fresh, clean water, and the noise from the components internal power supply as "muddy water". Using an NR power cord prevents the muddy water from the component's power supply from "muddying up" the fresh, clean water that the rest of the components are sharing.

Moreover, installing a dedicated AC line is virtually no guarantee of "clean" power; the mains wiring is an excellent antenna for high-bandwidth noise, and with the right analyzer, you can hear AM and/or FM radio as a significant noise component on dedicated AC lines.

Check out this video as an example: https://youtu.be/g2SAj7aKXGo
 
Hello everyone,

Nice review, I have one question though. I understand if lowers noise floor but what about voices and instruments "timbre"? Do they still sound real ?
Most people don't realize but besides positive effects, a conditioner could affect negatively the PRAT of a system making it slow or sluggish, instruments and voices could lose body and sound constrained, etc.
How good is this unit fomr this point of view, honestly ? I'm looking to buy it but I need a fair opinion.
 
Shunyata dealer said Shunyata stopped producing Triton V3. Anybody can confirm? And what new product is replacing Triton V3?
 
Shunyata dealer said Shunyata stopped producing Triton V3. Anybody can confirm? And what new product is replacing Triton V3?

Yes, stopped. A new one coming. Stay tuned.


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Great review. Power does matter. And many don’t know they have a noise problem until the noise is gone.

So once you have the noise epiphany, what did the noise sound like that you didn’t know existed until you no longer hear it?
 
So once you have the noise epiphany, what did the noise sound like that you didn’t know existed until you no longer hear it?

absolute black. Every note now holds it's own definition . Picture notes floating in air with nothing else as an influence ( except the room) . When the music stops all energy in the room is gone. That energy being Something I was unaware of being there until it was taken away.
 
absolute black. Every note now holds it's own definition . Picture notes floating in air with nothing else as an influence ( except the room) . When the music stops all energy in the room is gone. That energy being Something I was unaware of being there until it was taken away.

Thanks for your response. I''m always skeptical of the words "absolute black" when describing the sound of music in a listening room. There is no recording studio or recording venue that is recording "absolute black" music. It doesn't exist in the real world and neither does it exist in our listening rooms. When I hear the term "absolute black," I think of a system that has had all the life sucked out of the music. All of our gear has a noise floor, and so does the gear used to record the music. All of our rooms have a noise floor. Digital recorded from analog tape should preserve the analog tape noise floor, but I'm hearing hi-rez recordings originally recorded on analog tape that have filtered out the noise floor of the analog tape and that is not the only thing getting filtered out.

Can you still hear the decay of notes or do they just abruptly end into a black hole? Can you hear when a pianist is stepping on the pedals and when they release the pedal? Can you hear when a drummer has a squeaky foot pedal? It's the little cues that add together to make our music reproduction cross the threshold into sounding more real, not real black.
 
Thanks for your response. I''m always skeptical of the words "absolute black" when describing the sound of music in a listening room. There is no recording studio or recording venue that is recording "absolute black" music. It doesn't exist in the real world and neither does it exist in our listening rooms. When I hear the term "absolute black," I think of a system that has had all the life sucked out of the music. All of our gear has a noise floor, and so does the gear used to record the music. All of our rooms have a noise floor. Digital recorded from analog tape should preserve the analog tape noise floor, but I'm hearing hi-rez recordings originally recorded on analog tape that have filtered out the noise floor of the analog tape and that is not the only thing getting filtered out.

Can you still hear the decay of notes or do they just abruptly end into a black hole? Can you hear when a pianist is stepping on the pedals and when they release the pedal? Can you hear when a drummer has a squeaky foot pedal? It's the little cues that add together to make our music reproduction cross the threshold into sounding more real, not real black.

Perhaps my description leaves much to be desired. That's why I try and leave subjective terminology out . Everyone has a different way of hearing and the ability to describe what they are hearing , at least to some extent. The best description I can offer is that it has increased my listening enjoyment immensely . If you look at the systems I have assembled with a 30 year investment in the hobby I think you will agree it is not hap hazard. The best advise I can offer, get to your local dealer and ask for a home demo .
 
So once you have the noise epiphany, what did the noise sound like that you didn’t know existed until you no longer hear it?

For me personally, I own the Hydra, not the Denali - i.e. the Denali is definitely better. I wish I owned one.

It's not as easy to describe the noise that is heard, as it is to describe what I now hear. Perhaps a veil being lifted and moved out of the way; "
Garbage Out, Music In" would be a way of describing the noise being removed. No matter, with the Hydra what I now hear is a darker more silent background from which the music emerges. So what I play comes thru more clearly. Though the changes are subtle I hear more of the music. There is more detail.

I'm a former homicide detective, so I'll use an illustration of a fingerprint (FP) recovered at a crime scene. In FP ID one is looking for loops, arches, and whorls, etc. of a print recovered at a scene. Some recovered fingerprints are very definite - there are more "points" of ID and greater ridge detail making an identification of a perp very certain, while others don't have as many points of ID and thus the ID of a perp is not as certain. Needless to say the more points of ID the better. If the recovered print has 25 points in common with a perp and not merely 6, I know whose it is ....

So, in a matter of speaking what the Shunyata does passively is allow more points of ID to be heard. There are more the artist's "
loops, arches, and whorls" heard in the music. The sonic fingerprint is precise and clearer. There is more "ridge" detail, i.e. less distortion. The harmonic texture has greater range. There is a richer integrity in the sound.

Sorry if the illustration causes more confusion than clarification.
 
A little teaser ......

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Photo shows - MODEL D8T - so is this a new Denali 8?

I wouldn't infer anything since this is just a pre-production test unit. But a good hint at what might be around the corner. Like a future Corvette with cladding and camo paint.
 
I wouldn't infer anything since this is just a pre-production test unit. But a good hint at what might be around the corner. Like a future Corvette with cladding and camo paint.

Gotcha

Sorry, I just had to: :tutu:

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