Rmaf 2016

Me as well. The Denver Marriott Tech Center is completely changed. The entire right wing of the hotel is open and every single floor (12 floors?) is jam packed with listening rooms.

The renovations are very nice. The hotel looks quite modern now.

The tents outside are heated by the looks of things.

I spoke with the hotel manager and heard story after story of what they found when they began construction. All the road blocks they ran into, like starting to dig and finding abandoned old basements where they thought there was none. Scary when you think of it.

By all accounts, they've done the best they could.


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Still over 120 (not counting CanJam) rooms even with some key players missing. Mikes correct the hotel is looking good. Lots of changes to the main floor footprint.
 
I made it down from floors 11 to 5 today and gave up. I will catch the Mezzanine and floors 2 to 4 Saturday, plus head over to the Hyatt an the Magico room. All in all I was pretty disappointed this year. Only a few rooms seemed to have great sound and several of those were with small speakers. I have a feeling that many rooms were struggling with the new layouts and the inability to get all furniture out of the rooms. In addition I saw way too much "odd" gear that looks as if it was developed in a garage. More comments later.
 
Jim - you did better than me. I made it to the 6th floor (from 11).

Show hi-lights so far:

The "Jeff" room: Rowland/Joseph
KEF Blade 2's with Parasound
Bricasati/Tidal
MSB room

I have a lot yet to cover


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Well ......??
 
My picks:

Best Digital: MSB Select DAC stack

Best Analog: Kronos

Best Speaker Under $10k: (four way Tie) Jeff Joseph Profile speakers, Spendor D9's, Salk Speakers, ELAC. All four were excellent.

Best speakers over $10k: Magico M3

Second: Vandersteen 7's

Third: Tidal (but only with Bricasti). Not impressive with Zanden.

Fourth: KEF Blade 2's.

Fifth: New $100k Rockport's.

Best Solid State: Soulution

Runner up: Bricasti

Best tube amp: VAC iQ amps in Magico S3 room

Best Overall: Magico M3's with Soulution


Show comments: a success, despite pre show concerns to the contrary. The renovations have really brought the Marriott Denver Tech Center into the 21st century.

Overall, the rooms sounded much better than in previous years. I saw a lot more use of room acoustical treatments.

I saw more women at the show than in past years.

Less turntables, better sounding digital, much more solid state than tube equipment. A lot less individual cable companies with their own static displays.

The music still generally sucked, but there were some decent tunes I Shazamed.

Traffic seemed lower than last year.

Not a lot of new product launches, but some.

Not a lot of stand out new digital.

Overall, a great fun show as always and the organizers did a terrific job given the circumstances.

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I don't have a number one speaker/amp combo but would group these as my favorites:
Magico M3/ Soulution
Naim Statement/Focal Stella Utopia
Rockport/Boulder
Vandersteen 7/M7 HPA Vandersteen Amps

I wish the MSB Select DAC playing MQA files could have been set-up in a larger room like those I noted above. The room sounded very good and could have been great had it not been so room constrained.

Comments:
I too noticed that there were more women attending this year with their male companions. I also noticed that the age of attendees continues to increase which is very frightening for this hobby. (Maybe the younger crowd were all in the Can-Jam tents/pods)

When the renovation of the Marriott is complete I would suggest they keep all of the listening rooms in the one tower assuming there is a sufficient number of large rooms.

Too many major manufactures were missing. I hope they return in the future.
 
I don't have a number one speaker/amp combo but would group these as my favorites:
Magico M3/ Soulution
Naim Statement/Focal Stella Utopia
Rockport/Boulder
Vandersteen 7/M7 HPA Vandersteen Amps

I wish the MSB Select DAC playing MQA files could have been set-up in a larger room like those I noted above. The room sounded very good and could have been great had it not been so room constrained.

Comments:
I too noticed that there were more women attending this year with their male companions. I also noticed that the age of attendees continues to increase which is very frightening for this hobby. (Maybe the younger crowd were all in the Can-Jam tents/pods)

When the renovation of the Marriott is complete I would suggest they keep all of the listening rooms in the one tower assuming there is a sufficient number of large rooms.

Too many major manufactures were missing. I hope they return in the future.

Thanks Jim for your "boots on the ground" comments! From Mike's videos, the Magico M3/Soulution, Rockport/Boulder and Vandersteen 7/M7 HPA were the standouts for me too. The videos of the MSB Select DAC and AP R2R were also extremely impressive. Glad that you were able to attend.

Best,
Ken
 
My picks:

Best Digital: MSB Select DAC stack

Best Analog: Kronos

Best Speaker Under $10k: (four way Tie) Jeff Joseph Profile speakers, Spendor D9's, Salk Speakers, ELAC. All four were excellent.

Best speakers over $10k: Magico M3

Second: Vandersteen 7's

Third: Tidal (but only with Bricasti). Not impressive with Zanden.

Fourth: KEF Blade 2's.

Fifth: New $100k Rockport's.

Best Solid State: Soulution

Runner up: Bricasti

Best tube amp: VAC iQ amps in Magico S3 room

Best Overall: Magico M3's with Soulution


Show comments: a success, despite pre show concerns to the contrary. The renovations have really brought the Marriott Denver Tech Center into the 21st century.

Overall, the rooms sounded much better than in previous years. I saw a lot more use of room acoustical treatments.

I saw more women at the show than in past years.

Less turntables, better sounding digital, much more solid state than tube equipment. A lot less individual cable companies with their own static displays.

The music still generally sucked, but there were some decent tunes I Shazamed.

Traffic seemed lower than last year.

Not a lot of new product launches, but some.

Not a lot of stand out new digital.

Overall, a great fun show as always and the organizers did a terrific job given the circumstances.

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To my knowledge, Rockport doesn't have a $100k model.


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Best Overall: Magico M3's with Soulution

I'm sure these were terrific, but in all fairness -- Presidential Suite at Hyatt vs cramped rooms over at Marriott. That must've had some impact on their sound.

I think Magico was smart to premier these in a venue where they would shine and which would be easily accessible to those attending the show.
 
My show thoughts and favorite rooms:

Despite the construction, traffic was actually *up* for exhibitors compared with last year because of the move to a single tower - most of the worries were much ado about nothing, although I'm curious what the final tally would be.

RMAF has a cool vibe - the Zu party on Saturday night was fun. Only in Denver do you have a tamale truck show up with margaritas and hemp-based queso. I heard it went on well past 2. Scot Hull, John Darko, John Devore, Philip O'Hanlon, John Durda, etc. were all hanging out with whisky and scotch. Philip had his room open till midnight as well

YG Acoustics/GTT Audio didn't show at RMAF, but held factory tours instead - this was perhaps the highlight of my trip. The new 250k Sonja XV was pretty mind blowing, despite being on amps (Audionet) that I don't prefer. Sources were Kronos and dCS. Yoav spent an hour explaining at length what goes into his products and design - it was way cool! They have a beautiful listening room with 2" thick shaggy rugs and leather sofas. It was simply treated with acoustic panels that were not parallel to each other.

Music was better than some other shows I've attended - a grey-haired dude pulled out Holly Herndon in the Vandy room which stunned me (google it)

Room treatments were pretty much standard - this is such a change from 5 years ago and contributed to much better sound imo

I didn't feel the Marriott was as good a setup as the Hotel Irvine (was) for Newport - the rooms weren't as large and the facilities/amenities for attendees were not as good. Elevators were awful. It remains to be seen how LAX will be for Newport's future.

David Robinson (yes, the Admiral not the writer) was there on Saturday and I spoke with him several times, including sharing an elevator up to the Magico suite. It was his first time at a show and he's truly a "gentle giant"

It was great to meet some faces - Mike, Jim, Myles, Steve, etc. - and a nice AS dinner on Saturday. I was impressed while we shared differing opinions that we all love music equally.




Now on to the rooms (in no particular order):

Wilson Benesch/Ypsilon - probably the no-name room that should be on many highlight lists. Good tone, very coherent (minimal crossover), and excellent construction with a carbon fiber cabinet and custom drivers. However, I did think 36k for a 2.5 way speaker is getting up there and it only extended to 35hz. Craziest "sub" i've ever seen though.

Avalon/Nagra - big, lively sound with good tone and PRAT. I returned on Sunday and it sounded even better. The like 10 Nagra boxes were audio jewelry, inside and out :)

Spendor/Ayre- wonderful, relatively low cost combination that took many of the "super systems" to shame. The D9's additional bass is worth the extra $$$ over the slightly polite D7 I've heard before

Dynaudio/Octave - the best inexpensive system I heard. Contour 20s ($5k) had exceptional bass and I could easily live with such a simple combo. They also played cool music (honorable mention to Devialet)

Tidal/Bricasti- I wasn't in the perfect sweet spot, but this sounded quite pleasant. I can see how some might think its a bit dark, but it was eminently enjoyable. I heard Tidal on all Lampi at Newport, but preferred this setup with Bricasti.

Magico/Soulution- maybe still a bit for the more left brained audiophile, but easily one of the best speaker/room combinations (and they had diffusion everywhere). You could tell there was very low distortion in the room, although I feel the Soulution amps were a weak spot (and don't prefer them in general). What was really great about the M3 is the tweeter was extended but didn't draw attention to itself. Also, the speaker's coherency and bass seemed better than other Magicos I've heard. Soundstage as a result was excellent. I would love to hear them on Vitus or Dart and Vac.




re: Rockports. not sure they were setup well, but who knows (6" from the wall) as I've heard them many times at Newport sound better and almost always far from the wall. I found the sound a bit compressed and bass overcooked on Tin Pan Ally (yes, groan). Maybe it was the Boulder combo - I've heard BAT and Vitus w/ Rockport create a much more 3D sound stage.

re: Zu Audio. Polarizing brand and I've read some negative things historically from this show. I can confidently say putting them in that cavern of a room with a $1999 integrated isn't a good way to judge them and I thought the small system in the back probably sounded better. I was fortunate to hear London Grammar "Hey Now" at the Naim Statement/Focal room and funny enough, they put it on in the Zu room 10 minutes later. While the Focals clearly had more detail and top end extension, the Zu painted a more coherent musical picture. The Zu was only a prototype and the 18" active driver isn't going to be in the final...what was interesting is how the top end was so different despite both using beryllium. I concluded that Peachtree was a big problem. They would have sounded much, much better on Pass XA 60.8s that they use at other shows.

That's all for now - feel free to ask questions!
 
I'm sure these were terrific, but in all fairness -- Presidential Suite at Hyatt vs cramped rooms over at Marriott. That must've had some impact on their sound.

I think Magico was smart to premier these in a venue where they would shine and which would be easily accessible to those attending the show.

Magico, Wilson and Scanea all have used the Hyatt in the past. Smart move if you cannot get one of the better rooms in the Hyatt.
 
I don't have a number one speaker/amp combo but would group these as my favorites:
Magico M3/ Soulution
Naim Statement/Focal Stella Utopia
Rockport/Boulder
Vandersteen 7/M7 HPA Vandersteen Amps

I wish the MSB Select DAC playing MQA files could have been set-up in a larger room like those I noted above. The room sounded very good and could have been great had it not been so room constrained.

Comments:
I too noticed that there were more women attending this year with their male companions. I also noticed that the age of attendees continues to increase which is very frightening for this hobby. (Maybe the younger crowd were all in the Can-Jam tents/pods)

When the renovation of the Marriott is complete I would suggest they keep all of the listening rooms in the one tower assuming there is a sufficient number of large rooms.

Too many major manufactures were missing. I hope they return in the future.

One memorable rooms I forgot to mention was that of Crystal Cable. While the small speakers and their new integrated amp were not in the same league as those I noted above, they were still very good.

Now if you had the opportunity to be in this room when Lincoln Cheng (?) compared a "glass" CD to either a gold disc or one of the Japanese "super" discs you heard something special. These ~$1200 (YIKES!!) discs easily outperformed their specialty counterparts. Notes were crisper, instruments clearer........
Now if they could only bring the price down by about $1175 dollars. :D
 
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