Qobuz USA - Official Beta Testing Confirmed

Kingrex

From my reading through various forums it does seem that the more pieces that are involved in the streaming chain the more problems people are having. I have never had a problem with Qobuz using Auralic, Lumin, Teac, OPPO or Bridge II's native software with the Qobuz app embedded. Never tried it with a PC or NAS of any type involved as the worry of getting extra parts and pieces to work together makes it defeat the purpose of streaming for simplicity. If I want want extra work to listen I have about 4000 albums and CD's I can spin instead.

jnelson

I think if you will check the multiple long running threads on Computer Audiophile/Audiophile Style you will find that there are known issues with using a Chromecast and Google has been hard to work with even before they discontinued the Chromecast. Maybe time to look for something like a used Aries Mini or the like.
 
Jack said:
Kingrex

From my reading through various forums it does seem that the more pieces that are involved in the streaming chain the more problems people are having. I have never had a problem with Qobuz using Auralic, Lumin, Teac, OPPO or Bridge II's native software with the Qobuz app embedded. Never tried it with a PC or NAS of any type involved as the worry of getting extra parts and pieces to work together makes it defeat the purpose of streaming for simplicity. If I want want extra work to listen I have about 4000 albums and CD's I can spin instead.

My system is as simple as all those you noted. The only real difference is it does not have Qobuz embedded. It also runs on a Windows platform. I had the Linux platform removed. I like the windows sound. Thats just me. But hey, shouldn't Qobuz work on any PC/Apple tablet. So many people plug their laptop into a Dragonfly or out the headphone jack into a preamp and off they go. I bet there are still many more people streaming music on a phone and or laptop than those purchasing a purpose built machine. If what I am experiencing is a PC/Qobuz issue. I would hope they would address it. That is why I am asking if those with issues are running say a laptop/tablet. Something other than say a Lumin or Aurender. Just curiosity on my part.

In the broken listening I was able to get in tonight, I really could not tell the difference between Beethoven Symphony NO. 9 on either Qobuz or Tidal. Qobuz did have a lot more high resolution choices. Only a couple were good. Oddly the one with Leonard Bernstein in 16/44.1 was one of the best. I was amazed at how many bad recordings are out there. And a lot were in 24/96. Makes me wonder why someone thought to reissue them.

Led Zeppelin 4 on Qobuz 24/96 tonight sounded better than I have ever heard it on my system. I think my whole system is dialing in. Amps, front end, speakers, cabling, network. Its been a lot of learning and experimenting. I actually felt I was hearing it, as I heard it via tape on a half million or so system. The other setup was of course far better. But, I am finally getting the tone and just the life of the music to really come alive. Its kind of a high when it all starts to click. It's a nice feeling when you hear the best and can come home and mimic it to a degree on your own small system.
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And users need to remember what a BETA is, its work in progress to identify issues so they can be resolved before an official release. And know doubt along the way there are going to be lots of updates until the product is stable and functional to support the US market.
 
Good point Chris. I guess we see them all the time with JRiver, Roon and Spotify. I wonder what operating system they use in Europe. Is it MS. I was a little surprised to find out Asia uses a phone called Oppo. A few apple, not many. I forget the rest of the world has their own products and devices to perform work and communicate.
 
I have been using via UK registration for the last 5 months or so and I have had issues only one case with desktop/iphone/squeezebox/Audirvana, etc. The only time that I had issues was when I was using 6 or so year old laptop on wireless in the room that was furthest from access point. Sometime the queue will freeze at the end of the song and not move to the next song but hitting the next it would start working again. Replaced the laptop with something newer and the problem went away.
 
I was just looking at my account. Its also a UK version. Maybe my issues are having to wait for high speed access to cross an ocean. I have no idea if they have servers here in North America. I would assume, but who knows. For now I am going to default that that is my issue.
 
All of us with long term regular accounts are streaming from the EU and have no speed issues. Mine is a UK account. There was talk on CA that the US accounts would be using AWS. If you have a regular laptop I suggest you download the Qobuz app and stream direct from there by hardwire connection to your DAC and see if the problem is still present. Take the Mojo server out of the equation and without Roon.
 
I assume my pass was time sensitive and 1 time. I will wait till I can get real access and tech support which they will not provide me at this time. If it works when live, then great.
 
Watching this thread with interest. I too use the Tidal HiFi subscription and it would be nice to have options especially if it sounds better. I have done absolutely zero research into qobuz at this point... but I am off to look for information!

Without knowing anything other than what I've read in the threads here on AS, I will gladly sign up as Jack has done with the European subscription. I have two Lumin D1's in two different systems and it seems like that service works fine for purpose built streamers like Lumin, Aurender, etc. as reported here and in other threads.

I'd love to hear for myself the difference in quality from one service to the other or if I can even discern a difference. It will be a fun comparison with my most recent purchase of a Chord Qutest. By tomorrow, the Qutest will have been running 24 hours a day for two weeks time...336 hours. It's nicely broken in and sounds very beautiful. I have the Qutest's analog outs connected to a spare preamp input as well as the Lumin digital out BNC coax to the Qutest BNC in. For a streaming service it should be fine to compare, but due to the limitations across the 75 ohm coax connections of the Qutest, comparing higher resolution files is not as fair of a fight. [emoji3]
 
Mike

I've used both services in two different systems with multiple streamers and DAC's not to mention the multiple amps and speakers and I hear the same difference between the two services in every instance. To my ears Tidal has an upper mid-range grain that Qobuz doesn't have. Even my wife can tell the difference.
 
Jack said:
Mike

I've used both services in two different systems with multiple streamers and DAC's not to mention the multiple amps and speakers and I hear the same difference between the two services in every instance. To my ears Tidal has an upper mid-range grain that Qobuz doesn't have. Even my wife can tell the difference.
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Nice. [emoji41]

Seems I'd best get to listening soon!
 
Jack said:
All of us with long term regular accounts are streaming from the EU and have no speed issues. Mine is a UK account. There was talk on CA that the US accounts would be using AWS. If you have a regular laptop I suggest you download the Qobuz app and stream direct from there by hardwire connection to your DAC and see if the problem is still present. Take the Mojo server out of the equation and without Roon.
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Qobuz is hosted on AWS. I will double check tonight but the last time that I had looked my stream was being served by AWS server located in NYC area.
 
My network is not the issue. I hired a network administrator to assess and optimize my home. I have a dedicated router to Demark the utility and a dedicated gaming router to assign IP addresses and do wifi. My audio is all connected with Blue Jean's CAT 6. Speed test show I am very fast. I forget the numbers, but no other device is hampered at my house.

I'm going to step away from worrying about qobuz and let them follow their own course. If they go live I will sign up. If the issues don't go away I will seek tech support at that time.
 
Just read on this forum about a Roon update to connect to Qobuz. Did a update and now I can use my iPad to control the Oppo, Tital and now Qobuz libraries. I've had no luck with Qobuz in a Windows 10 desktop app. But, that's no longer a concern to me. I can now start my beta test with some freedom. At least that's my plan until something changes.
 
Received the beta test email today, and reentered information as instructed - I had the trial pass prior. Everything synced up, and is sounding good. Also, this time it took my credit card and said it will charge this March 6th as this month is free for testing.

I liked it before and listening now I like - it is sounding forward on the top end and clear but need to go back and compare Tidal against this as I really do not want two services. Also, I am struggling with paying Aurender for the 1st unfold of MQA and having a DAC that supports full unfold MQA - perhaps first world problems, but none-the-less a problem for me :bonkers:
 
Rex, Jack is correct. Built into the Brinkmann Nyquist are Quboz, Tidal, Roon, along with a few others I am not familiar with - simply insert a RJ45 cable, high quality of course :-)

Oddly enough, we have the same amount of posts 511, and joining not that far from each other.
 
UltraFast69 said:
Rex, Jack is correct. Built into the Brinkmann Nyquist are Quboz, Tidal, Roon, along with a few others I am not familiar with - simply insert a RJ45 cable, high quality of course :-)

Oddly enough, we have the same amount of posts 511, and joining not that far from each other.
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Same with the Lumin, just attach via the old Ethernet cable and select Qobuz and off ya go.
 
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