New speaker cable options...
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volks
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LMAO!
Don't laugh....selling all those WW cables sans boxes cost me on average, about $20-25 per cable vs normal market conditions.
Argh.
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ohbythebay
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Sigh...I hate to be the bee in the ice tea BUT (I will..lol)
I am not now nor will I ever be convinced that a set of cables over $100 will make an audible difference. Psychological difference? Yes...spend 2K or 5K on cables and you are convinced they sound amazing..I would have to be shown.
I am willing to bet (hypothetical bet) that I could bring my self made speaker cables (cost under $100) and match them against anything above..from $500 to $5000...it is impossible in physics and has been proven, there is no difference. It is electrical conductivity. No more, no less and the frequency carried by the variations.
Its sort of like advertising how your system is good from 5hz to 50000hz. Great. wonderful. But the normal human ear can only hear 20 to 20000..a few exceptions hear a little higher (near 25k) or a little lower (10hz) but otherwise..inaudible.
Do you know there have been blind listening tests with expensive cables vs coat hangers...and the coathangers won or were indistinguishable
So not trying to be a wet blanket...but wish someone was close who could bring one of these killer cables and prove it to me....its the best marketing snake oil since Dr. Drakes Magic elixir....:derf:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/audiophiles-cant-tell-the-difference-between-monster-cable-and/
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/03/audiophile_deathmatch_monster_cables_vs_a_coat_hanger-2/
Okay..said my piece
I am not now nor will I ever be convinced that a set of cables over $100 will make an audible difference. Psychological difference? Yes...spend 2K or 5K on cables and you are convinced they sound amazing..I would have to be shown.
I am willing to bet (hypothetical bet) that I could bring my self made speaker cables (cost under $100) and match them against anything above..from $500 to $5000...it is impossible in physics and has been proven, there is no difference. It is electrical conductivity. No more, no less and the frequency carried by the variations.
Its sort of like advertising how your system is good from 5hz to 50000hz. Great. wonderful. But the normal human ear can only hear 20 to 20000..a few exceptions hear a little higher (near 25k) or a little lower (10hz) but otherwise..inaudible.
Do you know there have been blind listening tests with expensive cables vs coat hangers...and the coathangers won or were indistinguishable
So not trying to be a wet blanket...but wish someone was close who could bring one of these killer cables and prove it to me....its the best marketing snake oil since Dr. Drakes Magic elixir....:derf:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/audiophiles-cant-tell-the-difference-between-monster-cable-and/
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/03/audiophile_deathmatch_monster_cables_vs_a_coat_hanger-2/
Okay..said my piece
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volks
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Yup, really!
MrAcoustat
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Tara Labs Temporal Continuum, yes they are old BUT they still do a very good job.
Later, a simple control device inside a box fitted to the cable (The Temporal Continuum) allowed the user to adjust the amount of high frequency energy to be heard.
- - - ( 1990 )
Later, a simple control device inside a box fitted to the cable (The Temporal Continuum) allowed the user to adjust the amount of high frequency energy to be heard.
- - - ( 1990 )
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ohbythebay
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Hey, if its good for the house, its good for the system...lOL...plus you can wire more outlets in the house with leftover :exciting:
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BobM
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Wait till you guys start hearing Pete's new speaker cables. The Triode Wire Labs speaker cables should finally be ready for commercial sale this summer. As a beta tester I can tell you they have replaced many different wires in the test group's home systems.
A very fine product at a very fair price.
A very fine product at a very fair price.
dlb2
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Thanks to Allen I've been listening to a set of Cardas Quadlink sc's. They are giving me a little more bass and a more full sound than my A23's. They are a bit warmer and don't have the crisp highs that I would like so I'm still looking. Having a tube amp doesn't help with the warmer Cardas cables I don't think. Allen switched to Transparent cables and thinks they may be just the ticket for my system.
The journey continues...
The journey continues...
dlb2
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Cyril, you know I haven't really given it much thought. My IC's are A23 and are fine, so I'm good there. The main reason for new SC's is due to my rearranging things and needing longer runs, approx. 12 feet. My A23 dealer can take mine back and send me what I need, but I figure it's a good time to try some different cables out. I'm also interested in the Acoustic Zen Hologram II's which I believe retail around $1400.00 but since Jeff carries the line I'm sure he can get me a good price. I am very interested in the Transparent line and may have the opportunity to try some out down the road.
I have a pair of 3 meter WW Eclipse if you're interested.
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Yup, yes you will, bud!
I have the 'in-wall' cables from TA. The dealer who sold it to me said it was like their MusicLink level line of cables, sans the network box. I think the resolution is a bit higher than the Cardas without being overly bright. But I think my SC length is something like 20' or more, LOL!
dlb2
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Yup, yes you will, bud!
I have the 'in-wall' cables from TA. The dealer who sold it to me said it was like their MusicLink level line of cables, sans the network box. I think the resolution is a bit higher than the Cardas without being overly bright. But I think my SC length is something like 20' or more, LOL!
You rock, dude! I'll just wrap the extra around my speakers so they look like something from "The Fifth Element!"
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