New Magico speakers arriving 04/2015!

Well, care to take another look at how the Magicos with a baffle look underneath? And then those without in comparison? You might find out that the baffle helps the ones with a baffle to get a similar outer casing shape to those without (rounded corners, less flat surfaces). It's the manufacturing method of the casing which determines whether you need a baffle or not.

For better understanding, this baffle costs fifty bucks to manufacture, and in a speaker with a market price in the tens of thousands it actually affects the total cost really a chicken dip in relation to the overall cost. If the S series would need one, they would have one.

A slab of ~80 lbs., hard anodized, 3D CNC machined, 6061 T6 aluminum for only $50?? Where do you get your numbers from?
Charles is absolutely right, a curved baffle, is indeed a good, but very costly, feature.
 
A slab of ~80 lbs., hard anodized, 3D CNC machined, 6061 T6 aluminum for only $50?? Where do you get your numbers from?
Charles is absolutely right, a curved baffle, is indeed a good, but very costly, feature.

Agree about the front baffle.

But would you also mill the monocoque of the S3 from a 2000 lbs slab, because that happens to be the only aluminum manufacturing method you happen to be aware of?
 
Agree about the front baffle.

But would you also mill the monocoque of the S3 from a 2000 lbs slab, because that happens to be the only aluminum manufacturing method you happen to be aware of?

There are no “economical” ways to make a baffle like that. It has to be machined, typical casting will not work here, especially if you want to anodize the part – and even if you could cast it, it will then have to have 2nd opt on a CNC and will then cost just as much.

You let me know where you can get a part like that for $50, I will transfer our plant there tomorrow (We make high precision parts, mainly for the medical industry);)
 
There are no “economical” ways to make a baffle like that. It has to be machined, typical casting will not work here, especially if you want to anodize the part – and even if you could cast it, it will then have to have 2nd opt on a CNC and will then cost just as much.

You let me know where you can get a part like that for $50, I will transfer our plant there tomorrow (We make high precision parts, mainly for the medical industry);)

Yeah, well, as you appear to be an expert on large industrial components, so you are making 80 lbs parts for the medical industry. Is that for dinosaurs or for regular giants?

I am sure Magico could really use your expertise.
 
There are no “economical” ways to make a baffle like that. It has to be machined, typical casting will not work here, especially if you want to anodize the part – and even if you could cast it, it will then have to have 2nd opt on a CNC and will then cost just as much.

You let me know where you can get a part like that for $50, I will transfer our plant there tomorrow (We make high precision parts, mainly for the medical industry);)
My understanding is the front baffle on the S5 is pure 6061 T6 aluminum which has been machined on a CNC mill and hard anodized, so not cheap. The outer curved panels and top and bottom plates are obviously extrusions to keep cost down. From what I can see, the new S7? is following the same manufacturing process as the rest of the S series, albeit including some features of the M Project and some inovations such as the separated mid/tweeter module.
 
That never occurred to me. I just assumed they were prototypes of the final product used for the picture. It gets harder and harder everyday to separate reality from the virtual world. Maybe we are in the matrix.

I wish I knew of these speakers earlier in the week since I was at Magico on Tuesday, and I didn't see anything like them. I was looking at a Q7 being built, and an S1 was near it, and the S1 looked so puny. I hope it doesn't develop an inferiority complex. :)
 
Yeah, well, as you appear to be an expert on large industrial components, so you are making 80 lbs parts for the medical industry. Is that for dinosaurs or for regular giants?

I am sure Magico could really use your expertise.

Yes, I understand, to some it can be frustrating to talk to someone who actually knows what he is talking about. I suppose you are going to wish me a slow painful death in your next reply, oh well....
 
LVB,

We appreciate your knowledge, I know I do, but guys can we keep things civil?
 
I agree Joe, we act like gentleman around here and won't allow insults to be thrown around.

If you can't say something with respect to another member, don't say it.
 
LVB,

We appreciate your knowledge, I know I do, but guys can we keep things civil?

Thank you for calling us to order Joe, I would like to apologize for my part for the unnecessary sharpness in some of my comments. The excitement about the new Magicos got too much I guess.

This should be fun, and I think its a gentleman's sport.
 
Local distributor says that it will be the new S7.

Quite a bit bigger than the S5/Q3 - taller than the Q3 by at least one foot perhaps?
 
Local distributor says that it will be the new S7.

Quite a bit bigger than the S5/Q3 - taller than the Q3 by at least one foot perhaps?

Ha! I knew it! Looks really impressive.


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Local distributor says that it will be the new S7.

Quite a bit bigger than the S5/Q3 - taller than the Q3 by at least one foot perhaps?

If it's bigger than the S5/Q3 will it cost as much as the current Q3?

Magico

Did your Local distributor say if the Q1,Q3 and Q5 will get updated with the new midrange and tweeter like the Q7 MK.II?

Based on the success of the M-Project, it seems like there is a market for an all out speaker in the $100K range.
 
If it's bigger than the S5/Q3 will it cost as much as the current Q3?

Magico

Did your Local distributor say if the Q1,Q3 and Q5 will get updated with the new midrange and tweeter like the Q7 MK.II?

Based on the success of the M-Project, it seems like there is a market for an all out speaker in the $100K range.
Assuming the S7 has some filter down technology from the M Pro (perhaps an outsourced version of the diamond-coated beryllium tweeter, upgraded x-over & polycarbonate midrange enclosure), then my guess is the price will be in the $45-$50k range. I don't think the S7 will get the graphene midrange. At this price point, based on the success of the M Pro, I bet the S7's would spank the Vandy 7 and many other speakers in that price territory.
 
Assuming the S7 has some filter down technology from the M Pro (perhaps an outsourced version of the diamond-coated beryllium tweeter, upgraded x-over & polycarbonate midrange enclosure), then my guess is the price will be in the $45-$50k range. I don't think the S7 will get the graphene midrange. At this price point, based on the success of the M Pro, I bet the S7's would spank the Vandy 7 and many other speakers in that price territory.
A $45-50K S7 would only make sense if the Q3 upgrade(midrange,tweeter and X-over) took it to $65K.
 
If it's bigger than the S5/Q3 will it cost as much as the current Q3?

Magico

Did your Local distributor say if the Q1,Q3 and Q5 will get updated with the new midrange and tweeter like the Q7 MK.II?

Based on the success of the M-Project, it seems like there is a market for an all out speaker in the $100K range.

More, apparently, but price not determined (or at least not out to dealers) yet.

Q3 upgrade to Mk II - he suspects unlikely due to the need to re-machine the faceplate to accommodate the 2mm larger 28 mm tweeter. Could be pure speculation or there is a NDA. Did not ask about the rest.
 
Local distributor says that it will be the new S7.

Quite a bit bigger than the S5/Q3 - taller than the Q3 by at least one foot perhaps?

That's interesting. Any details from your dealer when they are going to open up the kimono ...
 
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