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Here is a new pic, shows the top sealed midrange enclosure more clearly. In assembly, the machine pattern on the top will be filled with damping material.
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New Magico S3 - 2023
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Here is a new pic, shows the top sealed midrange enclosure more clearly. In assembly, the machine pattern on the top will be filled with damping material.
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In summary:
* The new S3 (2023) is two pounds heavier than the current S5 mk2.
* The tweeters are the 28mm diamond-coated beryllium (like M series)
* The midrange is now the graphene coated honeycomb aluminum driver used in the A5 and M9.
* The 9 inch bass woofers are new and made with the graphene coated honeycomb aluminum like the midrange.
* An all new footer system
* A far more extensive enclosure with far more bracing.
* The shape of the cabinet (even the top) is monocoque and also has no flat surfaces helping eliminate reflected energy and distribute sound better into the room.
All the above are significant advancements over anything in the S lineup.
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* The new S3 (2023) is two pounds heavier than the current S5 mk2.
* The tweeters are the 28mm diamond-coated beryllium (like M series)
* The midrange is now the graphene coated honeycomb aluminum driver used in the A5 and M9.
* The 9 inch bass woofers are new and made with the graphene coated honeycomb aluminum like the midrange.
* An all new footer system
* A far more extensive enclosure with far more bracing.
* The shape of the cabinet (even the top) is monocoque and also has no flat surfaces helping eliminate reflected energy and distribute sound better into the room.
All the above are significant advancements over anything in the S lineup.
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Michaels HiFi
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It's always exciting when a well respected audio mfg comes out with a new piece of gear. I bet these speakers are going to sound fantastic. Sounds like they've put a lot of thought into them.
I seriously doubt that this is a better solution. We will see what happens with the S5 or S7 upgrades
kzhtoo
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Not with the sealed enclosure. Magico is always about the sealed enclosure.
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Here is a new pic, shows the top sealed midrange enclosure more clearly. In assembly, the machine pattern on the top will be filled with damping material.
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Where is the crossover located in the cabinet structure?
Impressive very impressive technology.
Wonder how much they would be if Magico moved their HQ to TX or FL
Anyways, will be interesting to see or read how their competitor from Utah will bring forth the Sasha DAW V next year most likely at a similar price point.
Nice move on the trade-in program Mike. Magico should copy Wilson and do a one too but, glad you are feeding that need from a dealer perspective.
Wonder if we are reaching the limits of passive loudspeaker design.
Looking forward to the reading about the rest of new S V3 or 2023 line. Perhaps trickled out through 2023.
Seems like is Magico vs the world at this point and design in price categories they have it covered.
Wonder how much they would be if Magico moved their HQ to TX or FL
Anyways, will be interesting to see or read how their competitor from Utah will bring forth the Sasha DAW V next year most likely at a similar price point.
Nice move on the trade-in program Mike. Magico should copy Wilson and do a one too but, glad you are feeding that need from a dealer perspective.
Wonder if we are reaching the limits of passive loudspeaker design.
Looking forward to the reading about the rest of new S V3 or 2023 line. Perhaps trickled out through 2023.
Seems like is Magico vs the world at this point and design in price categories they have it covered.
I am really curious why Magico didn’t use a monocoque cabinet for the new S3 but opted to go with an internally braced cabinet. A monocoque design is proven to be stronger and much easier and cheaper to produce. Of course a stronger cabinet doesn’t necessarily correlate to one with lower vibrations.
Ken
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I can tell you already; they will change one panel (or two) to the “magic” V material, increase the volume of the enclosure by 2.37%, etc. and voilà, a new model! Everyone will go gaga, as usual
GSOphile
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I'm told that the machine Magico used to extrude the aluminum enclosure for the S3 and S3 MkII broke down a couple of years ago and is reportedly unrepairable.... which is why they haven't been manufacturing these lately. I think this machine also placed limitations on the shape of the enclosure. A carbon fiber solution (like the M2) is probably too costly for an S3 offering.
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The new structure, due to optimized bracing layout is much quieter, as stated in the PR. It is not possible to do that in a monocoque extrusion.
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Gene
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Its like the S and M series got together and had a child and the result was the new baby S3.
Wonder if any upgrade footers like the Spod will be available or retro fitted.
Wonder if any upgrade footers like the Spod will be available or retro fitted.
Puma Cat
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Cost, probably. Likely had an impact on the cost of the BOM.
From Magico FB:
David Hyman
I talked to alon about it. It's actually an improvement over internal enclosure. "We found out, after we got the laser vibrometer, that the pressure that was building up between the bubble, and the actual enclosure was creating more issues than the bubble potential benefits. The bubble was also interfering with critical bracing placement. We are getting better results using this method."
Puma Cat
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Interesting, thanks.
That is my point. One of the upgrades Magico did when they went from S5 mk1 to S5 mk2, was the bubble enclosure for the mid. Vibrations have nothing to do with it. Shape has (no standing waves when the sides are not parallel).
My personal opinion/speculation - the new S3 sounded to good compared to the M2, so they took that feature off.