My Thoughts on Axpona

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Axpona as a consumer show is starting to pick up steam or grow some legs if you will. Some things they do very well compared to RMAF. For instance, they don't make you wait until the day of the show (and right before the show starts to boot) in order to pick up your badge. I never understood why RMAF enjoyed the cattle call unless they just want to have some long lines to take pictures of. But then as others have astutely pointed out, when they take the pictures of everyone standing in line waiting to get their badges, it looks like an AARP meeting promising free food getting ready to start. So kudos to Axpona for giving out the badges early. And, if you have always dreamed of being a VIP once in your life, it can be had for an additional $20 at Axpona. I saw plenty of people who had VIP badges at the show. There were some perks that went along with having a badge that proclaimed you as a VIP. One of them was a special lounge set aside for the VIPs that had free coffee. Apparently the free coffee was pretty bogus tasting as one of the VIPs I met (Peter from Canada who posts on this forum) was standing in line with me at the Starbucks Cantina in order to get some half-decent coffee.

Another thing that Axpona has is security guards stationed on each floor by the elevators. I assume this is in case anyone tries to steal a pair of 450 lb speakers and run down the hall with them and tries to get on the elevator to make their great escape. Judging by the physical condition of most of the security guards I saw on the floors, I'm not sure they could have caught someone running with a 450 lb pair of speakers.

Axpona appears to me to have roughly half as many exhibitors (or less) than what you see at RMAF. To put this in perspective, I'm pretty sure all of the exhibitors at Axpona would fit in one wing of the Marriott used for RMAF and still have some rooms left over. I showed up on Friday morning about 30 minutes before the show started and I felt like I pretty much saw everything I wanted to see by the end of the first day. If I hadn't missed the ARC/SF room on the 12th floor that Mike was raving about, I might have called it quits. I went back this morning to hear the ARC/SF room and I'm glad I did. Easily the best of show for me. Maybe the best of any show I have attended as it was that good. Compared to that room, everyone else was pretty much making noise while the ARC/SF room was making real music. There were a few rooms that were decent, but I was pretty disappointed by most rooms. They were playing both analog (LPs) and digital in the ARC/SF room and everything they played sounded great when I was sitting there. That was the only room that I heard at the show that I would trade my system for (meaning the sound I get in my room with my system). Obviously it's a bitch trying to pull off great sound in a hotel room even if the gear is mega expensive. And to be fair, most rooms sound better on the second day of shows than they do on the first day.

The good news is that Axpona is growing and getting better. There are still plenty more floors available for this show to grow (floors 6-11). The people at the Westin couldn't be nicer and everyone seemed to genuinely care about all of the guests and ensuring the show went off without a hitch. It was a first-class operation and they should be proud of that. I would also say that on average, people who attended the show didn't yak as much in the rooms while you were trying to listen as so often is the case at RMAF. That was most appreciated by me.
 
Mark...thanks for your thoughts :thumbsup: So apart from the ARC and SF Lilium room, you said there were a few others that were decent. Which ones in particular? Any single product or trend stand out for you at the show?
 
I just missed Apoxna this year, had to cancel at the last minute.

Know how Apoxna compares to NYAS, which I've been to twice?
 
Mark...thanks for your thoughts :thumbsup: So apart from the ARC and SF Lilium room, you said there were a few others that were decent. Which ones in particular? Any single product or trend stand out for you at the show?


The Raidho room playing their step-child pair of Scansonic $3,500 speakers was really good. For $3,500, I thought those speakers were damn good. Great midrange, and surprisingly good bass for their size. And, they had good depth. I would have loved to have heard them with a Class A/B amp playing something besides PCM files and of course analog. One trend I saw was way more people playing DSD files. Also the Martin Logan Neolith speakers sounded very good.
 
I just missed Apoxna this year, had to cancel at the last minute.

Know how Apoxna compares to NYAS, which I've been to twice?

Allen-I'm sorry that I can't offer any insight into your question as i have never been to the NYAS. Perhaps Myles can comment as I'm sure he has been to both and could make a comparison.
 
Mark - good write up. We seem to agree in our observations.


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Mark, nicely said. I will go further and say its not just the room, but that lifeless, detail oriented sound is in vogue for many.
 
Mark, nicely said. I will go further and say its not just the room, but that lifeless, detail oriented sound is in vogue for many.

That's why the AcousticZen/Triode Corp, Volti/BP and a few others were such a relief.


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Nice report Mark. I was really impressed by the Optical Cartridge used on the AMG in the ARC/SF room. I heard it directly A/B-ed on the same track with the two arm Innovation using a Goldfinger in the Octave/M Project room and it was much closer than I expected. It was the find of the show for me. Pretty cool technology.
 
Well that's just to show you that we all have different preferences, I thought the Volti room was very unimpressive. Boomy bass and lackluster presentation. I hated the Scansonic, full of distortion that would rip your ears off. Might sound impressive at first because of the size and price but I'm pretty sure you would get tired of it pretty quickly.
 
Well that's just to show you that we all have different preferences, I thought the Volti room was very unimpressive. Boomy bass and lackluster presentation. I hated the Scansonic, full of distortion that would rip your ears off. Might sound impressive at first because of the size and price but I'm pretty sure you would get tired of it pretty quickly.

I agree Ian, If we have all same preferences than we only need one brand :) so which room sound most impressive to your ears ?
 
Well that's just to show you that we all have different preferences, I thought the Volti room was very unimpressive. Boomy bass and lackluster presentation. I hated the Scansonic, full of distortion that would rip your ears off. Might sound impressive at first because of the size and price but I'm pretty sure you would get tired of it pretty quickly.

Pretty much every room had boomy bass. Just some were far worse than others.

Pretty much the same thing could be said about the sound in all the rooms. Most were pretty bad, just which rooms sucked less.

This might be the first show that I left and there wasn't one piece of gear that I wanted to bring home to review. That said, it was a great show and the organizers did a marvelous job in putting this year's show together.
 
Myles, any chance you'll get to review Nick's new Doshi tape pre? That's the piece I would be packing home with me if i could.
 
This was my first show so my bases for comparison are very limited. I spent a long time on both days in the ARC / SF room and I agree that nothing sounded better. The Reps stressed the very human presentation of the sound versus that of competitors. Down the hall, a pair of Aesthetix Atlas monoblocks were driving the Magico Q7, and something was off. It sounded bright and (by comparison) mechanical. I heard second-hand that they were working all night on Friday to improve the sound. (Meanwhile, in rm 550 the host had some big Octave tube amps driving a pair of M Series that sounded like heaven.) My best experience was at the tape event late on Friday night. Jeremy from MBL was playing his reel-to-reel mix tapes at high volume in low-lighting and it was bliss.
 
I agree Ian, If we have all same preferences than we only need one brand :) so which room sound most impressive to your ears ?

Hard to pick just one. The SF/ARC was awesome, the Vivid Giyas w/CAT just oozed musicality and the tiny YGs with Audionet/Kronos I could listen to all day.

There are still some rooms I didn't get to because I revisited some rooms several times (the above mentioned plus the Magico rooms).

I will have only an hour or so today before I have to leave.
 
Funny that some of us love the same rooms and yet we are 180 out on other rooms. Ian, what music was playing when you heard the Scansonic's playing and they were "full of distortion that would rip your ears off?" When I heard them, they were playing music that was suited for them at appropriate playback levels. Did somebody request some death metal played back at 120 dB?
 
Hard to pick just one. The SF/ARC was awesome, the Vivid Giyas w/CAT just oozed musicality and the tiny YGs with Audionet/Kronos I could listen to all day.

There are still some rooms I didn't get to because I revisited some rooms several times (the above mentioned plus the Magico rooms).

I will have only an hour or so today before I have to leave.

So again, we have total agreement on the SF/ARC room and no agreement on the Giyas/CAT room. The Giya/CAT room didn't gel for me. I have heard that amp sound better and I'm pretty sure I have heard the Giya family of speakers sound better, but I'm not a big Giya fan in the first place. I think the Giya speakers like SS amps better than they like tube amps. I have never seen Philip demo them with tubes.
 
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