My girlfriend is not happy

The raidho demo's have the speakers along the long wall close to corners with extreme toe in and nearfield listening, like the speakers 12-14 ft apart 2'x2' or so from the corners and chairs lined up 6-8' off the front wall and the sound is glorious.
 
Mordante said:
Quick update

1) Some people have suggested putting a rug on the floor. While this might help, it will create another problem. I use floor heating so a rug would insulate my floor and could even cause overheating

2) Cables all of the powercords are by Ansuz. Reason I haven't gone full Ansuz is costs. My speaker cable are the first to be replaced for a Ansuz when the funds are there. My 6meter long Purist Audio interlink. That might be costly. But I might place my setup differently so that I can use a 2 or 3 meter interlink.
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Any room improvements you can do is probably likely to have bigger effect than any cable or other tweaks you add, but when sharing the living room I know it's easier said than done sometimes. We also have heating in our wooden floor and we have a big rug but it's not very thick and definitely not a problem for the heating.

If you can hear the room amplify when someone is speaking I don't think you need to worry about overdamping yet...

I'm selling my 2m Ansuz A2 speaker cables if you're interested, just PM me and we'll work something out.
 
Mordante said:
1) Some people have suggested putting a rug on the floor. While this might help, it will create another problem. I use floor heating so a rug would insulate my floor and could even cause overheating
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My parents house has floor heating, using hot water pipes under the floor, and we used rugs all over the place. I imagine it should be okay but you could check with an expert.
Mordante said:
4) I still have a bass problem in the room. When people with a lower voice are speaking you can hear that the room amplifies it. A kind a rumble/echo. Not really sure how to deal with that. I don't want to damp too much. I'm afraid more absorption in the bass will also mean absorption in mid/high and I don't want that.
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I agree with some of the other posters in saying that absorbing a wider range of frequencies is very likely to be an overall improvement. From your description, it's unlikely you only have a problem with bass frequencies, and more likely that the bass issues are simply the most noticeable to you right now.
 
I'm in contact with GIK Europe to see what would work for me. There are a couple bass traps that they sell. But I want to make sure I get the correct traps. The Tri-Trap © Corner Bass Trap looks good.

My current idea is to buy

2 Tri-Trap © Corner Bass Trap
2 or 4 60*120cm 2" wall panels
2 more Daad4 bass traps

The tri traps go into the corner with the most bass build up. The wall panel go on the first reflection point. The Daad4 will go on the first reflection point on the opposite wall of the speaker.

This is all dependent on my budget and if my girlfriend will allow so may traps in our living room.
 
Hi, having a quick look at your system,do not know your power/pre amps, but you could try demoing a pair of black boxes for your MRE 130 amps, they are supposed to make a real difference but at $7500, not cheap,Octave MRE 130 Monoblocks – Reviews | TONEAudio MAGAZINE
also you need to get rid of those bare walls, wood floor bare walls glass at the back, far to active for a hifi room, the sound will bounce all over the place,also in the review, as above, it states the amps need at least 45 mins to come on song, so listening for an hour is not recommended, have you tried to borrow a good cd player and see what the sound is like, also not a fan of side firing woofers, have you tried swapping them around, cheers
 
That room looks way too lively and is probably echoing like a son of a gun . That would drive me nuts . Clap you hands and listen close and see if it sustains .
 
The set up looks great but the room seems so 'hard' in regard to sound but your problem seems the opposite, its a bit of an enigma.
 
I've bought 2 more DAAD4 and right now I'm experimenting with the placement of these. Also I'm in contact with GIK. My current idea is to order two 40*60cm 2A Alpha Pro Series Panel Diffusor / Absorber and place these at the first reflection point. Also some I'm looking at bass traps not sure which model.
 
When I last had an apartment / speaker combo with bad sound, I got a lot more value out of changing the wall the speakers were setup on than I did from piling in a lot of GIK and Auralex panels. Like you I'd initially placed the speakers firing down the long way (the conventional way), and it didn't work in that case. Try setting them up instead on that left side wall. You'll probably need to absorb right behind your seating, but it's at least worth a try with all you've invested in such fine gear. All the various tweaks are good, but I'd be skeptical they'll get you to the promise land on their own when you're starting from relatively unhappy.
 
So yesterday some new toys arrived. Two full sized GIK Soffit Bass Trap both with scatter plates, Since I don't want to over dampen. These will be stacked on top of each other in the corner with the most bass build up. I also bought two GIK 2A Alpha Pro Series Panel Diffusor/Absorber (2″) to be placed at the first reflection point of each speaker.

Next to that I have 4 Daad 4 bass trap/diffusors these are place on top of each other on the first reflection point on the opposite wall.

The placement of the GIK items is pretty much fixed. I might do some experimenting with the Daad 4s.

Lets hope it all works out good.
 
When I have some time and clean my room I'll post some pictures.

The DaaD4 are currently no long stacked. I have one at the reflection point on the opposite parallel wall of my speaker. I placed on in of the the corners behind the listing position. The other DaaD4 is placed between the speaker against the wall. This seems to work out good.

I wish I could draw a floor plan of my room.

I spent some time listening the last few day to the new Kari Rueslåtten album Sørgekåpe on Qobuz hires. I love that album. I'm no expert but it seems to b recorded well and it sounded really good in my living room now.

If anyone wants to come over for a listen you are welcome. I have coffee and cookies. But not more then 2 at the time due to Covid-19.

I also replaced my AudioQuest Rocket88 speaker cables with Ansuz P2 4meter. That also helped a bit.
 
Mordante many have given solid no cost tips, an associate comes over and sells you some Ansuz
and plays with the bass traps.

My question is did you tackle any of the little to no cost items also never really read if your girlfriend and you are now in a happier place?

Also read you like the metal music, but when you do pop in some nice jazz or classical it will give you some more perspective of the sound in comparison to how metal is engineered and recorded, and I like what I coin as classic metal, Ozzy, Motörhead, Metallica and an oddity King Diamond.


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UltraFast69 said:
Mordante many have given solid no cost tips, an associate comes over and sells you some Ansuz
and plays with the bass traps.

The tips were:
1 use REW to do some measurements, I have not done this. To interpret REW you need a deep understanding of the physics of sound waves
2 use rugs, not possible with floor heating
3 play with the speaker postions, this was done the dealer and a member of this forum came over with some laser measurement tools. This helped to better position the speakers
4 room treatment, I did that
5 my old speaker cables were 3 meter, that meant that they were running across the room. With 4 meter cables they are out of the way with no chance of people stepping in them

My question is did you tackle any of the little to no cost items also never really read if your girlfriend and you are now in a happier place?

Also read you like the metal music, but when you do pop in some nice jazz or classical it will give you some more perspective of the sound in comparison to how metal is engineered and recorded, and I like what I coin as classic metal, Ozzy, Motörhead, Metallica and an oddity King Diamond.

At home I listen mostly to Nick cave and the Bad Seeds, Leonard Cohen, Simon and Garfunkel, Einsturzende Neubauten and yes metal (ISIS, Rotting Christ, My Dying Bride, Sinistro and others), I really dislike jazz. Full orchestral music is very hard to reproduce ate home.



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CPP said:
Same here, unreadable to my eyes.
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Mordante many have given solid no cost tips, an associate comes over and sells you some Ansuz
and plays with the bass traps.

The tips were:
1 use REW to do some measurements, I have not done this. To interpret REW you need a deep understanding of the physics of sound waves
2 use rugs, not possible with floor heating
3 play with the speaker postions, this was done the dealer and a member of this forum came over with some laser measurement tools. This helped to better position the speakers
4 room treatment, I did that
5 my old speaker cables were 3 meter, that meant that they were running across the room. With 4 meter cables they are out of the way with no chance of people stepping in them

My question is did you tackle any of the little to no cost items also never really read if your girlfriend and you are now in a happier place?

Also read you like the metal music, but when you do pop in some nice jazz or classical it will give you some more perspective of the sound in comparison to how metal is engineered and recorded, and I like what I coin as classic metal, Ozzy, Motörhead, Metallica and an oddity King Diamond.

At home I listen mostly to Nick cave and the Bad Seeds, Leonard Cohen, Simon and Garfunkel, Einsturzende Neubauten and yes metal (ISIS, Rotting Christ, My Dying Bride, Sinistro and others), I really dislike jazz. Full orchestral music is very hard to reproduce ate home.
 
some pics of current situation:

Why can't I upload pics anymore? How else am I supposed to post a picture??? Links from Facebook don't work.
 
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