MSB Select DAC

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In the video he clearly is referring to a "proprietary technology" which was developed for the DAC IV Select (and is separate from all of the obvious changes in the new top of the line Select). He made it sound like this "special sauce" made a huge difference in SQ for the DAC IV Select that carries over to the DAC V. Wish I could find something substantive about its make-up.
 
Mike said:
$90,000 for a DAC? I'm sure it was great. MSB makes nice stuff, but holy cow! Like you said Jim "it wasn't that much better than much lower priced offerings."

As a side, I think your Meridian with its filters is still damn good.
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But a 45k phono stage on the other hand...:)
 
I am starting to understand the financial crash with just this one thread. Are bankers audiophiles??? :D
 
asiufy said:
Hi Mike!

Yes, I meant the Analog DAC :)

But Mike, you need to audition the SELECT, or at least the DAC V. Heck, an Analog DAC will make you question your current beliefs.



alexandre
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Alexandre,

I was very impressed with what I heard in your Avantgarde/Audiopax/MSB room at Newport. amazing PCM sound. even though it was a very unfamiliar system it definitely caught my attention and so I have high regard for the MSB performance. I know that was not the very top MSB unit.

so I place no limits on what gear I have not heard can do.

but you have not heard analog in my room either. so we both have references that the other one has not heard.

I am on the hunt for a possible next step up in digital; we will see where that takes me.

best regards,

Mike
 
Mike,

No no, I meant beliefs in what digital can do, not digital x analog! Not getting into that!!!!!

And BTW, that DAC in the Audiopax room... It's the entry-level :)

cheers,
alex

Mike Lavigne said:
Alexandre,

I was very impressed with what I heard in your Avantgarde/Audiopax/MSB room at Newport. amazing PCM sound. even though it was a very unfamiliar system it definitely caught my attention and so I have high regard for the MSB performance. I know that was not the very top MSB unit.

so I place no limits on what gear I have not heard can do.

but you have not heard analog in my room either. so we both have references that the other one has not heard.

I am on the hunt for a possible next step up in digital; we will see where that takes me.

best regards,

Mike
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I think if you take the time to hear MSB Select, then you'll agree that it is actually a bargain at $90k...



...wish I could say that with a straight face :yahoo1:
 
asiufy said:
Mike,

No no, I meant beliefs in what digital can do, not digital x analog! Not getting into that!!!!!

And BTW, that DAC in the Audiopax room... It's the entry-level :)

cheers,
alex
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thanks Alex.

I'd love for my digital reference (both PCM and dsd all resolutions) to be reset at a higher point and hear how my own system can take full advantage of that.

your view of the MSB does matter to me and i'll look closer when I have the opportunity. the 'Select' will not be on my radar but the other levels might be.

best,

Mike
 
FlexibleAudio said:
Like I said, it's a personal value thing. One man's $45k phono is another's $90k DAC. I don't see the purpose in judging buyers of either. Particularly on a forum about high end gear.
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How's that system of yours coming along? Any more updates? Is music playing yet?
 
Mike said:
How's that system of yours coming along? Any more updates? Is music playing yet?
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Continuing to make progress.....slowly but surely. Music won't be for a while. Getting room designed by Nyal at Acoustic Frontiers. Picking a contractor. Ordered new Ascona. Bought a lightly used MSB Diamond Dac IV Plus with Galaxy and nice upgrade path. Thanks for asking.
 
Ah, you got an MSB! Congratulations :D

Have you hooked it up already?


cheers,
alex
 
FlexibleAudio said:
Continuing to make progress.....slowly but surely. Music won't be for a while. Getting room designed by Nyal at Acoustic Frontiers. Picking a contractor. Ordered new Ascona. Bought a lightly used MSB Diamond Dac IV Plus with Galaxy and nice upgrade path. Thanks for asking.
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Nyal is a great guy. That's a terrific move. He really knows his stuff. I think you'll really enjoy the MSB IV too.
 
asiufy said:
Ah, you got an MSB! Congratulations :D

Have you hooked it up already?


cheers,
alex
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No Alex, I pulled the trigger this weekend. I have been building out my system for a long, long time. It is in boxes until my room is done; hopefully this fall. Thanks for all of your help.
 
Mike said:
Nyal is a great guy. That's a terrific move. He really knows his stuff. I think you'll really enjoy the MSB IV too.
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Regarding the MSB, I wanted something neutral and quiet to form a baseline that does a good job with both formats. After I get settled in I will play around with some things more colorful (i.e., flexible audio). Do you remember two years ago on AA when I started my quest (below)? Yours was the last post on my thread at the time.

http://www.audioaficionado.org/general-audio-discussion/19937-help-new-system-flexible-audio.html

The fundamentals of that thread are still my plan. Patience grasshopper.

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FlexibleAudio said:
Regarding the MSB, I wanted something neutral and quiet to form a baseline that does a good job with both formats. After I get settled in I will play around with some things more colorful (i.e., Flexible Audio). Do you remember two years ago on AA when I started my quest (below)? Yours was the last post on my thread at the time.

http://www.audioaficionado.org/general-audio-discussion/19937-help-new-system-flexible-audio.html

The fundamentals of this thread are still my plan. Patience grasshopper.
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That's smart! The MSB is the Porsche of DAC's. The Lampizator is the Ferrari (no jokes please :) )
 
Mike said:
That's smart! The MSB is the Porsche of DAC's. The Lampizator is the Ferrari (no jokes please :) )
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i'll agree on MSB=Porsche.

i'd call the Lampizator the 'Lotus' of dacs.

Lampizator is high performance, cutting edge, and minimalist with a touch of DIY.......certainly more DIY in it's past than in it's present and future.

it may or may not have 'Ferrari' performance.....I cannot say at this point. but it comes up short in the cache' department.

which does not mean i'm not interested because I am.
 
This is probably a silly discussion but I will play. To me the Lampi is like a Boxter, I suspect it's measurables may not be earth shattering but it sure is fun to drive......just not everyday.
 
I HIGHLY suspect that you suspect wrongly…and I have 2 Trinity Dac owning pals to back me up who play theirs most everyday.

I also have another NYC Pal who has a upgraded Platinum MSB Dac and TWO Big7 Lampis (one is a HeadDac) and will sell one and get a Golden Gate HeadDac. I myself spent a day at his place last year comparing 4 of his Dacs…Lampi B7, the said MSB that retailed at $35K , the Hugo and the PSA Direct Stream.
The Lampi and the MSB were close. Since then he sent back that B7 for a complete overhaul and bought the first B7 HeadDac.
 
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