MSB Launches Two New DAC’s

Drool! I was listening to Elton John’s Captain Fantastic in MQA on the MSB today and it was just so unreal sounding. Can’t believe it’s digital. Sounds more like the best of tape and vinyl put together.


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Mike said:
It is still looking like June timeframe. Maybe a little sooner.

Let us know your thoughts on the REF DAC.


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Have decided not to go anywhere near the Reference. Out of my league. Will wait for the Premiere and test that (fully upgraded) against my Lumin (not a fair comparison on price, but I love my Lumin) and decide based on my perceived price to value. Will also try to find a dealer who does Brinkmann Nyquist (thanks Kuoppis) and also dCS (thanks Jack). Those are the 3 that excit me the most. Or an Esoteric N-01?
 
After some tought, I have ordered the MSB Premier DAC. It is expected to come sometime in June according to MSB. If I waited for the High end in Munich there was a risk of being August before the next delivery date.
 
Congrats Jabba! Hope the wait isn’t too agonising. Did you go for any of the upgrades (clock, power supply)?
 
Thanks AJR! The wait wil probably be fine. Some minor upgrades are already on its way. In between we have Munich.
My dealer says that the next step is two discrete psu and then reference psu. He wil let me test both dual discrete psu and femto 93 clock. So with that in mind, I chose to buy it with rendering module as the only ekstra.
 
my msb dealer just delivered my tannoy speakers after a 7 hour drive !! i think he will be exhibiting msb gear at munich this year and probably these new dacs
 
hifinutt said:
my msb dealer just delivered my tannoy speakers after a 7 hour drive !! i think he will be exhibiting msb gear at munich this year and probably these new dacs
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Nice speakers, and beautiful finish. Where did your dealer drive from, and were you able to hear first?


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Jabba said:
Thanks AJR! The wait wil probably be fine. Some minor upgrades are already on its way. In between we have Munich.
My dealer says that the next step is two discrete psu and then reference psu. He wil let me test both dual discrete psu and femto 93 clock. So with that in mind, I chose to buy it with rendering module as the only ekstra.
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Good choice for an extra the renderer. If you are going to start playing with the MSB and aren't quite sure, switching back to what you already thought was good is a very "appropriate" approaching moment to raising the bar on your expectations. Be warned about playing in the MSB upgrades, they work!
 
I see the MSB website has added on a picture and brief blurb re “The Premiere Power Base”... Jabba - do you know the price for this upgrade?
 
AJR said:
I see the MSB website has added on a picture and brief blurb re “The Premiere Power Base”... Jabba - do you know the price for this upgrade?
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Not yet, have ask my dealer and he may know more tomorrow.
 
AJR said:
I see the MSB website has added on a picture and brief blurb re “The Premiere Power Base”... Jabba - do you know the price for this upgrade?
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The prize for Premier power base will be $ 7500, if you buy it with Premier DAC.

If you order it later the prize will be higher.

So I have requested a quote on Premier power base.
 
That’s how I ordered mine too. I also am getting the stock power supply so people can compare.

My hunch is that this is going to be an amazing product. I can’t wait to get mine.
 
The reference stack on display, including two mono powerbases for the DAC, and the transport with its own power supply.
Renderer Mk2 software updated twice in the last several weeks, on the fly.
Impressive display.
 
I asked if I got a lift on the Premier DAC and it was heavy. Made of a piece of aluminium it is ultrasolid. As a buyer it was soothing to see and touch it. I was talking to both Jonathan and Daniel and they were so nice and down to earth.
 
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MSB showed the Reference DAC with Roon playback via the Renderer module and full MQA capability.

The renderer is doing MQA unfolding and decoding and will then pass on the signal to the DAC.

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mdp632 said:
Probably too early for this question. But, does MSB plan on producing companion transports for these DACS? At a more accessible price points than the recently announced ones.

If they made a Discrete transport with HDMI video (since I believe these new ones are based on the Oppo 203) I could remove the Oppo 205 from system and go to a full MSB stack DAC+Transport with HDMI ( I run it to a front projector)
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I asked them if they wanted to make a matching transport. They replied at the moment they did not work with it. Possibility it could come next year.
 
KeithR said:
I tend to agree on the Premier sweet spot - though worry with Powerbase and modular renderer its going to be closer to 30k.
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I think Keith is right:
- Base price: $19,500
- Power base upgrade: $7,500 (as per Jabba)
- Roon ready renderer: $1,995 (I am guessing)

Then an additional say $2,500 (as per Ken’s guesstimate) for the Femto 93.

I notice on the website that there is no optional upgraded pre amp module (as per the Reference). Wonder if with the base output module it can be used as a decent pre amp, and how much one would need to spend to buy a separate pre amp to better it. Hopefully we will find out when Mike gets one in store!
 
AJR said:
I think Keith is right:
- Base price: $19,500
- Power base upgrade: $7,500 (as per Jabba)
- Roon ready renderer: $1,995 (I am guessing)

Then an additional say $2,500 (as per Ken’s guesstimate) for the Femto 93.

I notice on the website that there is no optional upgraded pre amp module (as per the Reference). Wonder if with the base output module it can be used as a decent pre amp, and how much one would need to spend to buy a separate pre amp to better it. Hopefully we will find out when Mike gets one in store!
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Yikes that adds up, seems like that price hovers below a basic, Reference out of the box, still a full 5 figure retail but at that level, may as well


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