MPod stand for Magico M3's

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Our new M3's should be arriving in the next few weeks. They will have the newly announced QPod foundation platforms installed at the factory and be ready to go once they arrive.

The MPod's are a new designed Pod for the M3 MPOD 3-PT STAND. The MPOD is much larger and designed to support very heavy products.

Btw, we finally received our demo S1II's. I've heard them at shows, but was totally shocked, right out of the box at how close they sound to the S5II or S7's. Yes, less bass extension, but you don't even notice it on most music. As others have noted they are quite something especially at their price point.

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QPod stand for Magico M3's

Congrats on the S1 mk2's. They are fantastic.

I also added the new MPod stand for my demo M3's. Based on the information provided by Magico, on the M3 MPOD 3-PT stand seems like a good investment.

For those interested, MSRP is $9,600/pair for the new M3 MPOD 3-PT stand.

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Mike said:
Congrats on the S1 mk2's. They are fantastic.

I also added the new MPod stand for my demo M3's. Based on the information provided by Magico, on the M3 MPOD 3-PT stand seems like a good investment.

For those interested, MSRP is $9,600/pair for the new M3 MPOD 3-PT stand.


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Yes Mike the S1II's are definitely the "real deal". Because of the smaller cabinet size they throw a monitor type soundstage which is shockingly good and holographic. I am smitten:)
 
Do the Mpods require the matching stand ?
Was wondering if the pods could be screwed straight into speakers/racks?


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bobwah said:
Do the Mpods require the matching stand ?
Was wondering if the pods could be screwed straight into speakers/racks?


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Currently the only way to purchase MPods is with M3's and the three point stand. Stay tuned for future announcements from Magico regarding different implementations for the MPods.
 
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Mike said:
For those interested, MSRP is $9,600/pair for the new M3 MPOD 3-PT stand.
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Hmmm.

Now I understand why Alon does not like Stillpoints under his speakers. I would not either, if I could sell footers for 10 grand instead.

Sorry guys, but that is absolutely insane.


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Kuoppis said:
Hmmm.

Now I understand why Alon does not like Stillpoints under his speakers. I would not either, if I could sell footers for 10 grand instead.

Sorry guys, but that is absolutely insane.


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Stillpoints and MPODS work in completely different manners. Too bad you didn't join us on the tour to see the MPODS completely taken apart, saw the many materials inside, understood the costs of each piece (like the copper which handles the energy), to the "pin" which is removed after the speaker is in place, allowing it to "float", etc. Then frankly, you wouldn't have been so uninformed.
 
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Kuoppis said:
Now I understand why Alon does not like Stillpoints under his speakers. I would not either, if I could sell footers for 10 grand instead.

Sorry guys, but that is absolutely insane.
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The M3 requires a "platform" to be installed on the bottom of the speaker before the "footers" can be used. The $9600 is for factory installation of the platform on the M3. I believe as an introductory incentive the footers are being included with the platform at no additional charge. For the S7 and presumably other Magico models as well, there will be MPOD footers available that install directly on the speaker without the need for a platform. Pricing for the actual MPODs hasn't been announced AFAIK.
 
The Sandman said:
The M3 requires a "platform" to be installed on the bottom of the speaker before the "footers" can be used. The $9600 is for factory installation of the platform on the M3. I believe as an introductory incentive the footers are being included with the platform at no additional charge. For the S7 and presumably other Magico models as well, there will be MPOD footers available that install directly on the speaker without the need for a platform. Pricing for the actual MPODs hasn't been announced AFAIK.
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To clarify, the expensive is definitely in the MPOD's and not the platform. The way in which MPOD's deal with energy, allowing it to naturally dissipate and not get returned into the device is brilliant and to see an MPOD take apart, makes you completely appreciate the intricate machining and brilliant engineering that went into it. To see them pull the pin and see how it floats and everything inside and how it manages all that energy that is produced, is really something. Each piece, carefully machined inside and all of the parts working together.

6 MPOD's, two platforms, yup, I now understand why it costs what it costs.
 
Mike said:
To clarify, the expensive is definitely in the MPOD's and not the platform. The way in which MPOD's deal with energy, allowing it to naturally dissipate and not get returned into the device is brilliant and to see an MPOD take apart, makes you completely appreciate the intricate machining and brilliant engineering that went into it. To see them pull the pin and see how it floats and everything inside and how it manages all that energy that is produced, is really something. Each piece, carefully machined inside and all of the parts working together.

6 MPOD's, two platforms, yup, I now understand why it costs what it costs.
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Thanks for the clarification Mike. Out of curiosity, why does M3 need the platform (i.e. why not just mount the footers to the base without a platform)?
 
I specifically asked about pods for the S series and Alon said it would be cost prohibitive and has no plans of offering it.


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Mike said:
Stillpoints and MPODS work in completely different manners. Too bad you didn't join us on the tour to see the MPODS completely taken apart, saw the many materials inside, understood the costs of each piece (like the copper which handles the energy), to the "pin" which is removed after the speaker is in place, allowing it to "float", etc. Then frankly, you wouldn't have been so uninformed.
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Again hmmm :).

I'm afraid, Mike, my point is unlikely a question of engineering proficiency. The Stillpoints principle and MPODs is in the sense similar, that both are absorption devices. It is ceramic bearings against a selection of layered materials to the same end. Hence, this is less about being uninformed, it is just that I find the cost outrageous.

And regarding your argument about the copper, today's market price for 1 kg of copper is $4,60 when purchased by the ton, about $20,- for a single one kilo bar of 999 copper.

Let me try to explain through another example what I mean. The mathematician running the maths museum in New York calls playing Lottery taxation of the mathematically untalented. Of course, you could argue it is no tax at all, and you would even be right.

Nevertheless a pity I could not join, I am sure it was truly fascinating. As you know, I do have Magicos myself.


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Kuoppis said:
Again hmmm :).

I'm afraid, Mike, my point is unlikely a question of engineering proficiency. The Stillpoints principle and MPODs is in the sense similar, that both are absorption devices. It is ceramic bearings against a selection of layered materials to the same end. Hence, this is less about being uninformed, it is just that I find the cost outrageous.

And regarding your argument about the copper, today's market price for 1 kg of copper is $4,60 when purchased by the ton, about $20,- for a single one kilo bar of 999 copper.

Let me try to explain through another example what I mean. The mathematician running the maths museum in New York calls playing Lottery taxation of the mathematically untalented. Of course, you could argue it is no tax at all, and you would even be right.

Nevertheless a pity I could not join, I am sure it was truly fascinating. As you know, I do have Magicos myself.


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You don't understand the MPOD's. There is so much misinformation out there. Patience. Details on the MPOD's are coming. Perhaps others who were on the tour can more eloquently explain it to you.

Math away. Get your own machine shop, buy the $500,000 machines, do the engineering, buy the raw materials, hire the employees to man it and build 6 of them with the plates for less. We will be your customers.

Not so easy is it?

Too bad you weren't on the tour, you would be coming away saying, "oh yeah, now I see why they cost what they cost..."

I sell Stillpoints and MPOD's. COMPLETELY different approaches. Stillpoints are about complete isolation and decoupling. What happens when you put stillpoints under a preamp? You isolate it. Where does that energy go? Do you know? It has to go somewhere. We are talking about 50 or 60 cycles PER SECOND. Where does it go? Does it escape into thin air? Does it travel down the rack? If it did that, it wouldn't isolate, would it, and therefore wouldn't be doing the job you bought it for, right? Well, where does the energy go. Think about it and let me know.

When you look at MPOD's and QPOD's, that energy is dissipated through and into the copper with many other types of materials used. Magico does not believe in decoupling, because, why? Where does the energy go? See above. MPOD's are about an effective means to dissipate energy and provide dampening.

Again, you need to see the inside of the MPOD, feel it, touch it, examine it to really understand. MPOD's cost what? Roughly twice the amount as Stillpoints 5/6 when you take out the plate? If you saw the engineering inside, understood the theory behind it, I feel you would have a much better understanding.

Both Stillpoints and MPOD'S/QPOD'S do exactly what they are designed to do - they just approach the same problem with a different solution.
 
The Sandman said:
I need to look at that menu from the Magico afterparty again - I missed where it listed the Kool-Aid.
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HAHAHA! Point taken, but let's just say, I think 16 of us now have a much great appreciation and understanding - and respect.
 
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Kuoppis said:
Again hmmm :).

I'm afraid, Mike, my point is unlikely a question of engineering proficiency. The Stillpoints principle and MPODs is in the sense similar, that both are absorption devices. It is ceramic bearings against a selection of layered materials to the same end. Hence, this is less about being uninformed, it is just that I find the cost outrageous.

And regarding your argument about the copper, today's market price for 1 kg of copper is $4,60 when purchased by the ton, about $20,- for a single one kilo bar of 999 copper.

Let me try to explain through another example what I mean. The mathematician running the maths museum in New York calls playing Lottery taxation of the mathematically untalented. Of course, you could argue it is no tax at all, and you would even be right.

Nevertheless a pity I could not join, I am sure it was truly fascinating. As you know, I do have Magicos myself.


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The large Stillpoints, that from a far do not look nearly as “invested” as the MPods, are over $900 a piece (with floorsaver). That does not seem like a bargain, nor too far off the likely MPods prices, so what is your point? Yes, this is all expensive, but are you going to look at a gold Patek and measured its price by the value of the gold in it? We don't really know much about these feet so I don't understated your argument, just be happy you don't have to wounder what they do, since they do not fit your S3 ;)
 
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