MPod stand for Magico M3's

Geez, judging by the horses going wild here I am sure there was Kool-Aid on the menu [emoji39].

Mike, rest absolutely assured there is not a piece of technology on this planet you would understand and I do not. Happy to compare CVs if you like.

But that is not the point, I just find 10 large too much for footers and do not give a thing even if they have flubber inside. I also find the large Stillpoints expensive.

So, shoot me for daring to voice my opinion.


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I was going to ask Alon but got talking about something else and I forgot, why a totally inert speaker cabinet like Magico needs feet that dampen - since the cabinet is inert, why wouldn't you want something that isolated that inert cabinet from the outside world.
 
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Seeing the MPODs, I can easily see why they are the price they are.

And without doing comparisons with and without, nobody knows if the price is justified sound wise.
 
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The large Stillpoints, that from a far do not look nearly as “invested” as the MPods, are over $900 a piece (with floorsaver). That does not seem like a bargain, nor too far off the likely MPods prices, so what is your point? Yes, this is all expensive, but are you going to look at a gold Patek and measured its price by the value of the gold in it? We don't really know much about these feet so I don't understated your argument, just be happy you don't have to wounder what they do, since they do not fit your S3 ;)

Yeah, well, but then again I do have Magicos, right?


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Were any listening comparisons done with and without Mpods? I´m sorry but my initial reaction to the price tag was of shock, they better bring some extraordinary improvements to the sound because at that price there are many DACS, amps etc that will probably do much more. I´m a fan of Magico and their technological prowess by the way but the price of some high end audio components and accesories is an all out attack on common sense.

Mike when you send the Hit Men my way can you please tell them to make it quick? :D
 
Were any listening comparisons done with and without Mpods? I´m sorry but my initial reaction to the price tag was of shock, they better bring some extraordinary improvements to the sound because at that price there are many DACS, amps etc that will probably do much more. I´m a fan of Magico and their technological prowess by the way but the price of some high end audio components and accesories is an all out attack on common sense.

Mike when you send the Hit Men my way can you please tell them to make it quick? :D

No comparison, but we spoke with employees who had A/B (for what it's worth). No hit man needed. When you look at things on the surface, it's easy to say "wow". But when you see them up close, see the engineering and parts involved and the machinery to make them, you start realizing, 6 of them and the bases for $9,400 ain't that crazy.

But the point is, you don't HAVE to buy them. If the price bothers people, well then the stock spikes will work just fine. But for those looking to reach optimal performance, it's well worth considering. Not unlike cabling I might add.



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I was going to ask Alon but got talking about something else and I forgot, why a totally inert speaker cabinet like Magico needs feet that dampen - since the cabinet is inert, why wouldn't you want something that isolated that inert cabinet from the outside world.

From Magico:

"Nothing on this planet including its "center" is INERT.

The MPOD is designed to channel unwanted oscillation away from or incoming to the enclosure via Constrained Layer Damping which transforms energy into heat without compromising the coupling effect to the floor.

Please let me know if you need more information on this specific topic."
 
Man I would think something that weighs in a 319 lbs was pretty isolated from incoming sonic interference's, but science is science.

It would be interesting to see how well these Mpods work on a wooden floor like is in a lot of homes with second stories.
 
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Good point and thats very true.

From Magico:

"Nothing on this planet including its "center" is INERT.

The MPOD is designed to channel unwanted oscillation away from or incoming to the enclosure via Constrained Layer Damping which transforms energy into heat without compromising the coupling effect to the floor.

Please let me know if you need more information on this specific topic."
 
BTW

If I were to buy M3s, or could upgrade an existing pair of Magicos - I would without question buy the MPODS. You could just see it in the faces of everybody at Magico what a difference they make - it was just so honest and like they had found the wholy grail. They were almost giddy on what they thought of them.

And after seeing the quality and what goes into the MPODS and all - they are NOT a big profit center for Magico. So thats not why they were excited.

Just my $.02
 
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This is the same post I added elsewhere but is more appropriate here. I am unable to delete the other.

It would be interesting to hear a comparison of the M3's with and without the MPOD's. I understand the difficulty in swapping them in and out rapidly and we know our audio memory is short.

Magico must have put a great deal of thought into the design. Both Magico and Wilson have been adamant that Stillpoints are not the answer under their speakers so seeing Magico address the problem with a different design is intriguing.
 
Sure, why would you use your own ears if you can just listen to the unbiased opinions of manufacturers, who possibly want to sell you their own accessories?

Here's Michael Fremer commenting in Dec 2015 Stereophile: "... While Wilson Audio Specialties doesn't recommend the use of Stillpoints, I replaced the floor spikes supplied with my Alexandria XLF with Stillpoints' massive Ultra 5 feet ($699 each). There were definitive improvements in bass clarity and in soundstage focus and stability. I'm not going back to the spikes."


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Sure, why would you use your own ears if you can just listen to the unbiased opinions of manufacturers, who possibly want to sell you their own accessories?

Here's Michael Fremer commenting in Dec 2015 Stereophile: "... While Wilson Audio Specialties doesn't recommend the use of Stillpoints, I replaced the floor spikes supplied with my Alexandria XLF with Stillpoints' massive Ultra 5 feet ($699 each). There were definitive improvements in bass clarity and in soundstage focus and stability. I'm not going back to the spikes."


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I wonder if he still has that configuration. Have at it with A/B with the feet of 300+ pound speakers. I'll sit back and watch. We will start to get a better idea of the effectiveness of the MPODS, once they are available for the S7's and hopefully, the S5 mk2's (there's been no mention of this...likely just wishful thinking on my part).
 
Sure, why would you use your own ears if you can just listen to the unbiased opinions of manufacturers, who possibly want to sell you their own accessories?

Here's Michael Fremer commenting in Dec 2015 Stereophile: "... While Wilson Audio Specialties doesn't recommend the use of Stillpoints, I replaced the floor spikes supplied with my Alexandria XLF with Stillpoints' massive Ultra 5 feet ($699 each). There were definitive improvements in bass clarity and in soundstage focus and stability. I'm not going back to the spikes."


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I tried Stlllpoints under my speakers and I thought it sounded good. I removed them a month later and it sounded better. It is typical in this hobby that change sounds good because it is different. Sometimes it doesn't hold up. In my case Stillpoints were a false illusion.

I've sat is demo's with MF. After hearing him pontificate over mediocre sound I don't have much faith in what he writes.
 
I wonder if he still has that configuration. Have at it with A/B with the feet of 300+ pound speakers. I'll sit back and watch. We will start to get a better idea of the effectiveness of the MPODS, once they are available for the S7's and hopefully, the S5 mk2's (there's been no mention of this...likely just wishful thinking on my part).

I've got a couple engine hoists if ya need to borrow one for lifting , :D
 
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