Moving up to Vivaldi

Jim, the Vivaldi units look superb in your shelf. I’m glad to hear the replacement went smoothly; now time to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Can’t wait to hear your thoughts as you get acquainted; congrats again!
 
Kingsrule said:
Jim

Ur posting about the Vivaldi stack like it just came out...Its been around like forever and honestly it isn't very good.
I suggest u look at MSB especially the Select II.
Between the 2, there isn't even room for discussion. Just say'n.............
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Yes, I may be bias since I have a Vivaldi but I gave the MSB setup a listen at Axpona earlier this year before upgrading from my Rossini and found that it was not for me.
 
still-one said:
My Rossini Player and clock have been replaced by my Vivaldi DAC, clock and upsampler. (Interesting that the new Absolute Sound with the Rossini on the cover arrived the day it left my system). The set-up went very smooth. Roon found the unit immediately and a couple of looks at the manual(s) and I was up and running. It will take some time to determine which dac MAP program to use and which filters and upsampling I prefer.
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I had to make a setup matrix sheet to keep track of all the various upsample settings, filter settings, map settings, and clock dither when I first started listening. It was information overload coming from the Rossini.
 
JimmyS said:
I had to make a setup matrix sheet to keep track of all the various upsample settings, filter settings, map settings, and clock dither when I first started listening. It was information overload coming from the Rossini.
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Fortunately I am only using one input on the Upsampler so I just have to determine which settings I prefer for that input and not multiple inputs.
 
Congratulations. Nice DAC, Sorry you got trolled. It's hard making multi thousand $ purchases. Nothing like an inconsiderate person telling you your gear sucks. Quite the contrary, You will get great performance from the DCS. Good luck with the software. As in filter selection. HQ player is all I have and each change is such a small shift in tone. It's hard to keep track of what actually benefits, or just changes . Maybe pick one and let it rip for 200 hours, then start evaluating. I bet there are others with your gear who can give you 4 or 5 setting they have found good. Start there, find your favorite, then tweek from there.
 
still-one said:
My Rossini Player and clock have been replaced by my Vivaldi DAC, clock and upsampler. (Interesting that the new Absolute Sound with the Rossini on the cover arrived the day it left my system). The set-up went very smooth. Roon found the unit immediately and a couple of looks at the manual(s) and I was up and running. It will take some time to determine which dac MAP program to use and which filters and upsampling I prefer.

Here are couple of quick shots.

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Beautiful Jim! Gorgeous.
 
JimmyS said:
Yes, I may be bias since I have a Vivaldi but I gave the MSB setup a listen at Axpona earlier this year before upgrading from my Rossini and found that it was not for me.
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"Congratulations. Nice DAC, Sorry you got trolled. It's hard making multi thousand $ purchases. Nothing like an inconsiderate person telling you your gear sucks. Quite the contrary, You will get great performance from the DCS. Good luck with the software. As in filter selection. HQ player is all I have and each change is such a small shift in tone. It's hard to keep track of what actually benefits, or just changes . Maybe pick one and let it rip for 200 hours, then start evaluating. I bet there are others with your gear who can give you 4 or 5 setting they have found good. Start there, find your favorite, then tweek from there."

Well I OWN both a Vivaldi/Upsampler and a MSB Select II. Sorry, not exactly listening at a show but it'll do....And what exactly is ur experience with Vivaldi Kingrex? Not much I'll bet. So don't troll with comments that u actually know nothing about. And as I said, the OP already has issues with Vivaldi and its software. U can read about it on the Roon dCS forum.....
 
It maters not how much I have listened to the DAC. I am referring to common curtesy. You don't go telling the proud new owner of a $60K or $70K piece of gear he should have bought something you like better. There are times to comment and times to keep your mouth shut. Your comment was inappropriately timed.
 
Kingrex, do u actually read entire threads?(NO) Or just jump to conclusions?(YES)

When I made my first post the OP hadn't taken delivery yet.....
And it was not a matter of liking it over something else, it was a matter of functionality (or lack thereof) I was warning about.


And for the record, the Vivaldi sounds like original digital...nothing close to musical.......
 
Kingsrule said:
"Congratulations. Nice DAC, Sorry you got trolled. It's hard making multi thousand $ purchases. Nothing like an inconsiderate person telling you your gear sucks. Quite the contrary, You will get great performance from the DCS. Good luck with the software. As in filter selection. HQ player is all I have and each change is such a small shift in tone. It's hard to keep track of what actually benefits, or just changes . Maybe pick one and let it rip for 200 hours, then start evaluating. I bet there are others with your gear who can give you 4 or 5 setting they have found good. Start there, find your favorite, then tweek from there."

Well I OWN both a Vivaldi/Upsampler and a MSB Select II. Sorry, not exactly listening at a show but it'll do....And what exactly is ur experience with Vivaldi Kingrex? Not much I'll bet. So don't troll with comments that u actually know nothing about. And as I said, the OP already has issues with Vivaldi and its software. U can read about it on the Roon dCS forum.....
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Yes, if you read the entire thread on the Roon forum you will see that it was MY error as I cross connected a group 1 and group 2 clock cable. Not a dCS issue at all. My dealer and dCS walked me thru the fix in less than an hour and on a weekend.
 
Jim,

Glad to hear you remediated that small cabling issue. So how’s the new stack sounding to you?! Have you narrowed down the settings or are you having too much fun experimenting?
 
Kingsrule said:
Kingrex, do u actually read entire threads?(NO) Or just jump to conclusions?(YES)

When I made my first post the OP hadn't taken delivery yet.....
And it was not a matter of liking it over something else, it was a matter of functionality (or lack thereof) I was warning about.


And for the record, the Vivaldi sounds like original digital...nothing close to musical.......
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Ok. I understand that there is no single "Best" in any category of audio gear, but that statement is pure horse shit.
 
still-one said:
Ok. I understand that there is no single "Best" in any category of audio gear, but that statement is pure horse shit.
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Well, some have ears and some have gear. Some have both.......

And I read BOTH of your Vivaldi threads in the Roon Community. The flaws will keep coming......
 
Kingsrule said:
Well, some have ears and some have gear. Some have both.......

And I read BOTH of your Vivaldi threads in the Roon Community. The flaws will keep coming......
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You know, it would be helpful if you posted your system in your signature line so we would at least know where some of your comments are coming from.

Ken
 
It would be helpful if Kingsrule had tact and etiquette. A general understanding of when an opinion is being requested. At no point in this thread did the originator seek anyone's input for a buying decision. There are lots of other threads where people are actively requesting members input and perceived opinions. Kingsrule should understand those are the correct thread to voice his opinion.
 
Alpinist said:
You know, it would be helpful if you posted your system in your signature line so we would at least know where some of your comments are coming from.

Ken
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People with the biggest mouths and put downs are usually the ones that will never list their gear. We have at least one such person on this forum now. Maybe Kingsrule will break the rule and list his gear. Probably best not to sit on a picket fence waiting for it to happen though.
 
I think dCS and MSB are fundamentally different designs and hence don't sound at all alike. I can see how one would prefer the other and vice versa.
 
KeithR said:
I think dCS and MSB are fundamentally different designs and hence don't sound at all alike. I can see how one would prefer the other and vice versa.
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Keith. I agree with you.

They (dCS & MSB) are also one of the few sources that do not start out with off the shelf chips.
 
KeithR said:
I think dCS and MSB are fundamentally different designs and hence don't sound at all alike. I can see how one would prefer the other and vice versa.
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IMO listening is inherently subjective. Sometimes a system can sound perfect to me -- I can come back to it a day, week or month later, play the same music that grooved me so much the first time, and have a completely "blah" response -- when the only thing that's changed is my mood, or the relative humidity, or my waxy buildup, or the position of the planets, or lord knows what. If I can't hear the same from one session to the next it's a hell of a leap to assume that any other listener hears the way I hear.
The highfidelity.pl site often reports on listening society sessions, and these experienced guys are definitely not hearing the same thing the same way at the same time. While it's nice to share enthusiasm with a fellow enthusiast, I would never make a blanket statement about someone else's experience. The Truth is not out there ...;)
Parker
 
Kingsrule said:
Well, some have ears and some have gear. Some have both.......

And I read BOTH of your Vivaldi threads in the Roon Community. The flaws will keep coming......
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i can understand why Jim is excited....the Vivaldi is a world class digital front end and compares well with any other front end I have listened to...including the Select II. The Select II is the current shiny penny similar to the Trinity of years back that slowly faded. The Vivaldi just continues to stay relevant and dCS has provided one major upgrade along with the upcoming MQA release.....they also go out of their way for their customers

from my listening the two units differ slightly in presentation and perspective...but both get the fundamentals right. Not sure who pee'd in KR's coffee but he is way off base on his assessment. Whether he owns both or not he is just off IMHO...I think the quote above says enough about his perspective
 
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