Magico SPOD - New!

Thank you for your kind response, I believe this could be a great addition to my S3 mk1 as well.


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What I meant about distortion above is if S3s become more detail/rich sounding due to SPOD or Stillpoints, any weak link in the chain, whether it's components or file quality, it might become easier to hear.
 
Kuoppis said:
Thank you for your kind response, I believe this could be a great addition to my S3 mk1 as well.
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My thinking is S3 mk1 + SPOD will never become S3 mk2, but without SPOD, we may never know S3 mk1 full potential.
 
Possible. My conclusion from experimenting with Stillpoints was that the LS were less stable, which induced some distortion. Removing the Stillpoints also increased clarity and detail. Similar comments have been posted by S5 owners.

This is also the reason why I am intrigued by the SPODs. Alon does not recommend Stillpoints for that very reason, but knowing his products he has introduced something which brings the benefits w/o the negatives. The SPODs are more rigid compared to Stillpoints and hence allow solid coupling of the LS to the ground, while providing some damping.


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kzhtoo said:
My thinking is S3 mk1 + SPOD will never become S3 mk2, but without SPOD, we may never know S3 mk1 full potential.
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Still a bit undecided on that. The S3 mk2 has yet to show its potential, will be interesting to hear whether the mk2 is a bit lean sounding or not. Measurements do raise some questions.

Of course this is a question of preference, mine is with the fuller sounding Magicos. But any Magicos will be good speakers.

A new model does as such not necessarily make a superior product.


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Kuoppis said:
Possible. My conclusion from experimenting with Stillpoints was that the LS were less stable, which induced some distortion. Removing the Stillpoints also increased clarity and detail. Similar comments have been posted by S5 owners.

This is also the reason why I am intrigued by the SPODs. Alon does not recommend Stillpoints for that very reason, but knowing his products he has introduced something which brings the benefits w/o the negatives. The SPODs are more rigid compared to Stillpoints and hence allow solid coupling of the LS to the ground, while providing some damping.


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Let me put it this way. SPOD is no less stable than S3 original spikes.
I also do not think the improvement that SPOD brings to S3 is as much as MPOD does to M3 or M-Pro. When Mike gets his SPOD, maybe he can make an assessment in this regard.
 
Kuoppis said:
Still a bit undecided on that. The S3 mk2 has yet to show its potential, will be interesting to hear whether the mk2 is a bit lean sounding or not. Measurements do raise some questions.

Of course this is a question of preference, mine is with the fuller sounding Magicos. But any Magicos will be good speakers.

A new model does as such not necessarily make a superior product.


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Exactly my thinking. I want to wait on some time before deciding on mk2. I read about mk2 and I get antsy. Then I sit down and listen to my S3s and I calm down again. lol
 
My understanding is as well that the SPODs are much more rigid than Stillpoints (latter are not rigid). I would however assume that a solid steel spine is mechanically more rigid that a sandwich construction of layered materials.

While a non-rigid approach might work on speakers with softer materials and a sounding corpus (like e.g. Harbeths), it did not work with Magicos in my system and environment. Hence the interest in SPODs.

As to the effect of MPODs on M3/ M-Pro versus SPODs on S3s I can only trust your ears at this point, as you have heard both and I have heard neither [emoji3].


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Actually I've only heard M3 with MPOD, not M3 alone. So your guess is as good as mine.
 
kzhtoo said:
Exactly my thinking. I want to wait on some time before deciding on mk2. I read about mk2 and I get antsy. Then I sit down and listen to my S3s and I calm down again. lol
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[emoji3] - so funny, exactly the same process here. And I am really happy with the mk1 right now.

My conclusion is that I will definitely not go with the mk2. There is just too little new to warrant that investment and the change was made to soon. So that will be penalized. I will later on decide about whether to stick with Magico or go another route altogether.

And I have yet to be convinced about it being a good idea to swop out the alu woofers. As a result the mk2 might have lost some warmth and I did not enjoy the previous colder sounding models as much.


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kzhtoo said:
Let me put it this way. SPOD is no less stable than S3 original spikes.
I also do not think the improvement that SPOD brings to S3 is as much as MPOD does to M3 or M-Pro. When Mike gets his SPOD, maybe he can make an assessment in this regard.
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That makes sense as the M3's and MPro have greater resolution and would be more sensitive to distortion compared to the S Mk2 series. Also the combination of their weight and the larger MPod feet come into play.

Given the S Pods are designed to work with weights ranging from the 43kg (S1 Mk1) up to 190.5kg (Q5), they should work well with the S1 Mk1/Mk2 and S3 Mk1/Mk2, however they would be operating in the middle of their weight range with the S5 Mk2's. Hence the improvement might be slightly greater :skeptical:.
 
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Melbguy1 said:
Given the S Pods are designed to work with weights ranging from the 43kg (S1 Mk1) up to 190.5kg (Q5), they should work well with the S1 Mk1/Mk2 and S3 Mk1/Mk2, however they would be operating in the middle of their weight range with the S5 Mk2's. Hence the improvement might be slightly greater :skeptical:.
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It's an interesting point you made. I'll be curious to hear more opinions on which S series speakers SPOD is most optimal with.
 
kzhtoo said:
It's an interesting point you made. I'll be curious to hear more opinions on which S series speakers SPOD is most optimal with.
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My next audio purchase will be a set of S Pods :audiophile:. Since my S5 mk2's are still on their coasters I thought I might as well buy them now so I don't have to go through that exercise twice. I'm not sure when that will be, but I will report my findings when we have them installed.
 
brodricj said:
It should be straight forward to hear M3 alone, just put the hand grenade pin back in the MPOD to neuter it.
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Good luck with that. You would need a hydraulic jack to lift the M3 and uncompressed the MPOD. Even then it wouldn't be the same as the M3 on its stock footers.
 
BlueFox said:
Good luck with that. You would need a hydraulic jack to lift the M3 and uncompressed the MPOD. Even then it wouldn't be the same as the M3 on its stock footers.
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I was about to mention that the MPods with the pin in them will sound different from the regular spikes.

I'm not sure I agree that you need a hydraulic jack to lift them though. They aren't that heavy - at least not compared to my MPros and I can insert the pins in my MPods (isn't necessary a 2 minute task but I can still do it...)
 
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Installed my SPOD's today. IMMEDIATELY noticed a better focused, tighter midrange.

Bass tightened up too.

Will remove the Herbies now to try.


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madfloyd said:
I was about to mention that the MPods with the pin in them will sound different from the regular spikes.

I'm not sure I agree that you need a hydraulic jack to lift them though. They aren't that heavy - at least not compared to my MPros and I can insert the pins in my MPods (isn't necessary a 2 minute task but I can still do it...)
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Okay. I was going by the article jap posted on the MPODs where the reviewer said that when the pin was removed the MPODs compressed. Obviously, if the pin can be reinserted then they aren't compressed much, if any.
 
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