Magico S5 mk2

currently running a chord qbd76hdsd into a soulution 721 (whichever one is without phono) and and odyssey kismet completely maxed out with internals from symphonic line's top offerings (klaus over at odyssey told me it was "the most bat-sht insane amp i've built"!). they are playing really well with the magico - a lot of credit to the soulution as well as it just keeps everything in control and i'm able to hear pretty much every part of the mix and the differences between vocals on synth'd tracks and live tracks are so beautifully delineated.

i cant get over just how loud these go without being uncomfortable - just need to resist the urge to keep cranking them up some times - and i don't normally listen loudly!

during my demo's i was really really impressed by fm acoustics (paired with zellaton) so could be interesting to see how they play here. i'm really loving the amp and for $2500 its an absolute steal. i really think it's going to be hard for me to part with this and so i will probably keep with separates for now. constellation pre, gryphon pre, ayre pre all sound like great things to test in the future. i'm digital only but i still find that the pre imparts so much tonality on the system (got my first mp3 when i was 7yrs old - i've never know anything but digital music haha. briefly had a turntable and it was fun but too fiddly). feels silly to pay these prices for "just a volume control", but c'est la vie
 
Skanda said:
so after much vacillating, research, demo'ing, and unintentionally upping my budget - i am the proud new owner of the s5 mk2. big thanks to Bob @ Rhapsody (not sure how to tag here) for helping me find the speaker i didn't know i was looking for and then getting it set up in my room. will post pictures in the next few days - and i think you guys might be surprised with the size of the room i was able to fit them into
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Congrats on the new speakers. I purchased a pair of Magico S5 MK2 in January and am consistently amazed at the quality of the sound they produce. Wow! You will enjoy this speaker for many years to come. Interesting that you mention your smaller room size. My room size is also quite small being 13' x 25' x 8' and the stereo system is only in half of the room. The bass from the Magico does not overload my room with bass like my previous speakers, B&W 802D.

Cheers,

John
 
john1970 said:
Congrats on the new speakers. I purchased a pair of Magico S5 MK2 in January and am consistently amazed at the quality of the sound they produce. Wow! You will enjoy this speaker for many years to come. Interesting that you mention your smaller room size. My room size is also quite small being 13' x 25' x 8' and the stereo system is only in half of the room. The bass from the Magico does not overload my room with bass like my previous speakers, B&W 802D.

Cheers,

John
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thanks John...believe it or not, my room dimensions are more or less the same as yours - a lot of the buildings in nyc follow this layout. the way s5mk2s stay in control on even the heaviest electronic or hip hop sub-bass is amazing. i've been getting a real kick out of it, pun intended
 
Skanda said:
thanks John...believe it or not, my room dimensions are more or less the same as yours - a lot of the buildings in nyc follow this layout. the way s5mk2s stay in control on even the heaviest electronic or hip hop sub-bass is amazing. i've been getting a real kick out of it, pun intended
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The bass control (and definition) of the S5 MK2 is amazing. What drew me to the S5 MK2 was not just the quantity of bass, but the definition and pitch of the bass. Even in my small room I also use subs, but only for the last ½ octave of bass (30 Hz down). For the subs I am running dual JL Audio F113 at 30 Hz 12 dB/octave X-over.
 
john1970 said:
Congrats on the new speakers. I purchased a pair of Magico S5 MK2 in January and am consistently amazed at the quality of the sound they produce. Wow! You will enjoy this speaker for many years to come. Interesting that you mention your smaller room size. My room size is also quite small being 13' x 25' x 8' and the stereo system is only in half of the room. The bass from the Magico does not overload my room with bass like my previous speakers, B&W 802D.

Cheers,

John
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Congrats John! Great choice. I bet they're amazing in your 13 x 25 room much better than the bloated bass from B&W.
 
Mike said:
Congrats John! Great choice. I bet they're amazing in your 13 x 25 room much better than the bloated bass from B&W.
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Hi Mike,

Thank you for the kind words. I have a question for you. I run a pair of JL Audio F113 subs to X-over at 30 Hz @ 12 dB/octave slope. The Magico S5 MK2 run full-range. The purpose of the subs is to provide a bit more presence down to 16 Hz.

Question: Is the 12 dB/octave slope ideal or should I be using the 24 dB/octave slope? I naively picked the 12 dB/octave slope since the slope would match the 12 dB/octave bass roll off of the main speakers. Please advise.

Cheers,

John
 
john1970 said:
Hi Mike,

Thank you for the kind words. I have a question for you. I run a pair of JL Audio F113 subs to X-over at 30 Hz @ 12 dB/octave slope. The Magico S5 MK2 run full-range. The purpose of the subs is to provide a bit more presence down to 16 Hz.

Question: Is the 12 dB/octave slope ideal or should I be using the 24 dB/octave slope? I naively picked the 12 dB/octave slope since the slope would match the 12 dB/octave bass roll off of the main speakers. Please advise.

Cheers,

John
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Hi John - I would go with 12db, but when it comes to subs, there are no hard and fast rules. Experiment. Also play with phase. Also, try without the subs.


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has anyone tried a dartzeel 108 with their s5mk2? i'm tempted by some great deals i've been seeing on those amps...but i've also read that they run out of steam easily
 
108 can run out of steam, but only on speakers which are really difficoult to drive, like the original Wilson Sasha mk 1 that I had (1.8 Ohm min). It drove beautifully my Sophias 2 and a good friend of mine is still using it to drive his Wilsons Maxx II.

Magico S5 mk 2 are not particularly difficoult to drive and 108 should have no problems driving them.
 
I keep coming back to these speakers and wonder how the synergy would be with my current gear. My amps are Triode TRX M845 monos, no preamp and my cables are Tellurium Q Silver Diamonds
 
I wouldn't pair these current hogs with your SET monos; they will make sound mind you, but you should pair them with speakers that have a flatter and higher minimum impedance so you can get the best out of your amplifiers.
 
smodtactical said:
Do you think the S5 Mk2 would sound good in a small room of 12 x 16 x 8 ft dimensions?
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It’s a little small. M2 or S3 mk2 would be better in that size of room. Again, you have a great local dealer and he can help you.


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smodtactical said:
Do you think the S5 Mk2 would sound good in a small room of 12 x 16 x 8 ft dimensions?
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My room is slightly smaller than yours (16L x 11W x 8H) and S3/Q3/M3 have all lived comfortably in that room. Bugger, I just cut my thumb wide open with the sharp edge of the tape measure when trying to measure my room :( S5Mk2 would be a bit of a squeeze. With that in mind, if you were happy buying used, I don't think you can beat Q3 for the price they have been selling for (much cheaper than new S3Mk2).
 
smodtactical said:
Do you think the S5 Mk2 would sound good in a small room of 12 x 16 x 8 ft dimensions?
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i have a s5mk2 in a room not much larger than that. if you're in the nyc area, pm me and i'd be happy to host so you can see how it plays with the room. it was a big concern for me as well before making the purchase but worked out great
 
I tend to like more bass with my music which is what makes me lean M3 or S5 Mk2.

Skanda thanks so much for the offer, really nice of you. I am quite far away though. I may also have a future listening room in my basement that is 14 x 24 x 7 ft so something a bit bigger would probably scale well there.
 
smodtactical said:
Do you think the S5 Mk2 would sound good in a small room of 12 x 16 x 8 ft dimensions?
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I used to have the the S5 and then S5mk2. My room is 14 x 19 ft. IMO this is the minimum size to accomodate those speakers. In your case I would go with the S3/ S3mk2.
 
bumping an old thread here, but figured it was the best place to ask. with the s5's when you state that your speakers are 3ft, for example, away from the wall directly behind them, are you referring to the distance from the tweeter to the wall or the back of the cabinet to the wall? it's a general question that can be applied to all speakers and the "you" is intended for the reader, not anyone in specific.

in my case, my tweeters and midrange drivers are about 4 feet from the wall behind them (unfortunately an equipment rack inbetween negates that measure for the woofers). since there is no port i feel like this is more accurate for a sealed speaker than back of cabinet but wondering what others think
 
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