Magico S5 mk2
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My understanding is that none of the drivers are "identical" from the S5MKII and the S7, although they are of the same materials and of the same overall design, just designed specifically to match each speaker. This overall material and design is also similar to the M-Project and the Q7II. Specs below.
S7 driver specs
Tweeter 1 X1 " MBD26 Tweeter
Midrange 1X6" MCG8005 Graphene Midrange
Bass 3 X 10"
S5 MK II
Highs: 1" MB7 Beryllium Dome (X1)
Midrange: 6” M390G Graphene Nano Tec (X1)
Bass driver: 10” MAG10508 AluminumXF Graphene (X2)
The S7 definitely looks to be a nice step up. When I heard they at RMAF, they sounded nice.
Mike, I really don't even feel like the existing S5 is even close to the S7 sonically, it really is a completely different sounding speaker, literally in every attribute.
Magico makes a technically, well designed speaker and the S7 is an excellent evolution in the S series. It begs the question however: where does this leave the Q series?
I still chuckle to myself when I think of the original S series vs Q series debate. I remember hearing one of the first pairs of the S5's in Toronto when they first came out. They were so new and this one of the first pairs delivered. There was literally nothing anywhere on any website that you could find about them (other than pictures and specs). I A/B them against the Q5 for hours. I remember scratching my head wondering why the S5 sounded better and yet cost half as much. The dealer even agreed. I posted my thoughts on another site and was criticized by the Magico fans. The S series better than the Q series? Blasphemy they cried! I stood by my experience. The S was a more musical, engaging speaker and I liked the price better too! Heck, I even bought a pair, yet since sold it to Bud (which he subsequently blew up)
As time went on, it seems like no one is talking about the Q5 and very little about the Q series in general and I would think the S series is a bigger seller for Magico. The numbers don't lie....
For me, having heard all the Q's (even the Q7 mk2) and all the S's (except the S5 mk2/S1 mk2), the M Project is one of those speakers that rises above all the others in all the other lines. The M Project was by a large margin, the best Magico speaker I've ever heard. I do agree that the S7 gets you close. But just looking at the M Project gives one goosebumps. Gorgeous.
Magico makes a technically, well designed speaker and the S7 is an excellent evolution in the S series. It begs the question however: where does this leave the Q series?
I still chuckle to myself when I think of the original S series vs Q series debate. I remember hearing one of the first pairs of the S5's in Toronto when they first came out. They were so new and this one of the first pairs delivered. There was literally nothing anywhere on any website that you could find about them (other than pictures and specs). I A/B them against the Q5 for hours. I remember scratching my head wondering why the S5 sounded better and yet cost half as much. The dealer even agreed. I posted my thoughts on another site and was criticized by the Magico fans. The S series better than the Q series? Blasphemy they cried! I stood by my experience. The S was a more musical, engaging speaker and I liked the price better too! Heck, I even bought a pair, yet since sold it to Bud (which he subsequently blew up)
As time went on, it seems like no one is talking about the Q5 and very little about the Q series in general and I would think the S series is a bigger seller for Magico. The numbers don't lie....
For me, having heard all the Q's (even the Q7 mk2) and all the S's (except the S5 mk2/S1 mk2), the M Project is one of those speakers that rises above all the others in all the other lines. The M Project was by a large margin, the best Magico speaker I've ever heard. I do agree that the S7 gets you close. But just looking at the M Project gives one goosebumps. Gorgeous.
Personally I thought the Q3 (not Q5 unless driven with the exact right amps) had more resolution and I liked it better than the S5s. I must say that now I feel that the S7 goes beyond all of the Magico line except the MP and the Q7MkII.
Agreed on the MP, but after living with the Q7's for a months now, I have no desire for anything more within the Magico line. I know the MP is a step up but the S7's are so good in their own right that it's personally "good enough" for me to enjoy music as well as I ever have through an audio system.
I had both speakers, the S5 and now the Q3. No question in my mind of the superiority of the Q3, it is just a better speaker by all accounts. However, because they are voiced so linearly, they may not appeal to all listeners. With Magico you have to take your time and understand what is really going on. It is easier to do that with the S5, it is more in-line with what most people are used to. It sounds like with the S7 (and the MPro) you seem to get the best of both worlds.
MRJAZZ
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Magico makes a technically, well designed speaker and the S7 is an excellent evolution in the S series. It begs the question however: where does this leave the Q series?
I still chuckle to myself when I think of the original S series vs Q series debate. I remember hearing one of the first pairs of the S5's in Toronto when they first came out. They were so new and this one of the first pairs delivered. There was literally nothing anywhere on any website that you could find about them (other than pictures and specs). I A/B them against the Q5 for hours. I remember scratching my head wondering why the S5 sounded better and yet cost half as much. The dealer even agreed. I posted my thoughts on another site and was criticized by the Magico fans. The S series better than the Q series? Blasphemy they cried! I stood by my experience. The S was a more musical, engaging speaker and I liked the price better too! Heck, I even bought a pair, yet since sold it to Bud (which he subsequently blew up)
As time went on, it seems like no one is talking about the Q5 and very little about the Q series in general and I would think the S series is a bigger seller for Magico. The numbers don't lie....
For me, having heard all the Q's (even the Q7 mk2) and all the S's (except the S5 mk2/S1 mk2), the M Project is one of those speakers that rises above all the others in all the other lines. The M Project was by a large margin, the best Magico speaker I've ever heard. I do agree that the S7 gets you close. But just looking at the M Project gives one goosebumps. Gorgeous.
If your don't mind elaborating, how would you compare the M Project to your AVGARDE horn speaker?
Thanks........
Completely different. The M Project is an exercise in perfecting the science of sound. The driver integration is near flawless. The speaker is coherent from top to bottom. The cabinet rigidity is leading edge. The sound is big and bold.
madfloyd
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I'm a Magico owner and I don't take any offense to this, Mike, seems fair to me. I love my speakers but also loved Avantegarde the last time I heard them. Looking forward to hearing yours next week.
Avantgardes and Magicos......Ferraris and Lamborghinis.....along with another 50 world class sounding speakers that are available in the market. Just like the cars they all have a different "twist" or recipe en route to the same goal. Pretty much comes down to personal preference in the end. You can build a world class system with the Av's or the Magicos and the other 50+ speakers out there. The most important aspect of it all is correctly interfacing whatever speaker it is to a specific room. Don't forget - all any speaker driver is doing is moving back and forth real fast which produces air movement in the room and our ears pick up that air movement.
I always feel that the "room" is really the speaker and the speakers are just air pumps
I always feel that the "room" is really the speaker and the speakers are just air pumps
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I always feel that the "room" is really the speaker and the speakers are just air pumps
Agree Rhapsody. I've heard a number of audiophiles say the same thing. The room is part if the speaker system.
Btw, I sent Kal (at ARC) my basement/sound room measurements and am waiting to hear back with ARC's speaker recommendations.
It may very well be that I hold where I am. My current fronts, Paradigm S8 (v3) speakers may not have the pedigree of a Magico, Revel or Wilson inter alia, but many reviewers have commented that they perform well above their price point.
For the technically minded, the S8 (v3) has a super fast and light tweeter that has a beryllium dome and 20K gauss neodymium magnets. The mid is ultra light and strong that has an aluminum/cobalt alloy cone and 15K gauss neodymium magnets. And so forth.
Perhaps the best analogy is a sooped-up Chevy Camaro versus a Ferrari or Lamborghini. The Camaro might not have the pedigree or panache of a Ferrari or Lamborghini, but it will go just as fast.
Oh .. perhaps most important .. the S8s don't sound half bad. Let's see what ARC comes up with.
BIF
I completely agree with this comment. I much prefer the Q3 to the S5. I found it more transparent, more refined, more natural sounding. And it is much better looking, IMO. The M Pro is my favorite Magico speaker. I don't really like any of the old S series, but I look forward to hearing the new S7 and S5II.
Just sold my S5s. I wanted to get the S5 mk 2, but I was told that all initaial batch is sold out and they will not available before late match / early april 
I'm looking at my options now. Having no speakers during wintertime (which is the only time of the year I actually have the time to listen) is not an option for me.
Maybe I will try the Blumenhofer FS-1, or the Raidho D1 ... hmmm, decisions, decisions.
I'm looking at my options now. Having no speakers during wintertime (which is the only time of the year I actually have the time to listen) is not an option for me.
Maybe I will try the Blumenhofer FS-1, or the Raidho D1 ... hmmm, decisions, decisions.
the professor
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That sucks.
Raidho D1s would be my choice.
Raidho D1s would be my choice.
Just sold my S5s. I wanted to get the S5 mk 2, but I was told that all initaial batch is sold out and they will not available before late match / early april
I'm looking at my options now. Having no speakers during wintertime (which is the only time of the year I actually have the time to listen) is not an option for me.
Maybe I will try the Blumenhofer FS-1, or the Raidho D1 ... hmmm, decisions, decisions.
Sold out? Wow.
Focal Sopra 1's?
What about S7's instead of S5 mk2's?
I would only do Raidho if you can get them for a steal. If resale in Poland is anything like resale here...
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madfloyd
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I echo Mike - S7's instead? Heard them this weekend, they are very very good.
Just sold my S5s. I wanted to get the S5 mk 2, but I was told that all initaial batch is sold out and they will not available before late match / early april
I'm looking at my options now. Having no speakers during wintertime (which is the only time of the year I actually have the time to listen) is not an option for me.
Maybe I will try the Blumenhofer FS-1, or the Raidho D1 ... hmmm, decisions, decisions.
Get these to hold you over:
http://www.pureaudioproject.com/product/trio10-mundorf-amt-open-baffle-speakers/