Magico MPOD

David, don't drag me into any inquiry. As others have mentioned, speaker driver screw tightening is basic maintenance. Obviously, the drivers can't be welded to the baffle. When I tightened them the movement was very, very little. Maybe a degree if you think of the screw as a 360 degree circle.
 
BlueFox said:
David, don't drag me into any inquiry. As others have mentioned, speaker driver screw tightening is basic maintenance. Obviously, the drivers can't be welded to the baffle. When I tightened them the movement was very, very little. Maybe a degree if you think of the screw as a 360 degree circle.
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Not dragging anyone bro. I just asked Magico for clarification regarding the S5 mk2's owners manual :). Looks like you missed LVB's and my obvious tongue-in-cheek humor :lol:..
 
Melbguy1 said:
..If as your "horses mouth" advice suggests the results can make a "big difference", then either someone is asleep at the wheel at Magico, or this advice is specific to the S3. I await a response from Magico.
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The horse in this instance was Peter Mackay at Magico...
 
No one seems to be talking about the effects of these little babies. I've had my M'3s with the MPODs for about four months. I've been letting them break in slowly and have not pulled the pins on the M3 MPOD's until last weekend. I'll admit my bias upfront. The M3's are the best speakers I have ever had in my system or ever heard anywhere period. I attended Mike's Suncoast Audio event a few weeks ago and listened to the pitch on the S3's and their MPODS. I couldn't wait any longer. I warmed the system up, listened to some of my reference tracks and then pulled the pins on the MPOD grenades. Afterwards, I had a different system in a very good way. The soundstage was deeper and wider. The images were bigger. Not a subtle difference. High priced - Yes. Worth it to me - Yes. As expected, the difference was very noticeable on my very best files, not so much on the mediocre ones.

Cincy
 
Cincy, are you sure Mike was running the S3 Mk2's with MPods? I thought he posted some pics with the SPods installed?
 
Cincy2 said:
No one seems to be talking about the effects of these little babies. I've had my M'3s with the MPODs for about four months. I've been letting them break in slowly and have not pulled the pins on the M3 MPOD's until last weekend. I'll admit my bias upfront. The M3's are the best speakers I have ever had in my system or ever heard anywhere period. I attended Mike's Suncoast Audio event a few weeks ago and listened to the pitch on the S3's and their MPODS. I couldn't wait any longer. I warmed the system up, listened to some of my reference tracks and then pulled the pins on the MPOD grenades. Afterwards, I had a different system in a very good way. The soundstage was deeper and wider. The images were bigger. Not a subtle difference. High priced - Yes. Worth it to me - Yes. As expected, the difference was very noticeable on my very best files, not so much on the mediocre ones.

Cincy
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So I just gotta ask

You have Jim Smith over to dial in your M3's, which from what I can tell were't even broken in yet and on top of that Smith didn't hear the system with the MPOD pins removed, correct?
 
I didn't even notice. I reacted to Peter's pitch about how much difference the MPOD's made on any of their speakers. My commentary was describing how they affected my M3's.

Cincy
 
Kingsrule said:
So I just gotta ask

You have Jim Smith over to dial in your M3's, which from what I can tell were't even broken in yet and on top of that Smith didn't hear the system with the MPOD pins removed, correct?
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Correct. Our goal with Jim was to address the frequency response in the room. We achieved that goal...making the curve from 20-20,000Hz as flat as we could. I believed that improvements as a result of speaker break in and unleashing the MPODS would not significantly affect the frequency response of my system in my room. Measurements I have taken before and after with my iPAD RTA app and microphone confirmed this.

Cincy
 
Cincy2 said:
No one seems to be talking about the effects of these little babies. I've had my M'3s with the MPODs for about four months. I've been letting them break in slowly and have not pulled the pins on the M3 MPOD's until last weekend. I'll admit my bias upfront. The M3's are the best speakers I have ever had in my system or ever heard anywhere period. I attended Mike's Suncoast Audio event a few weeks ago and listened to the pitch on the S3's and their MPODS. I couldn't wait any longer. I warmed the system up, listened to some of my reference tracks and then pulled the pins on the MPOD grenades. Afterwards, I had a different system in a very good way. The soundstage was deeper and wider. The images were bigger. Not a subtle difference. High priced - Yes. Worth it to me - Yes. As expected, the difference was very noticeable on my very best files, not so much on the mediocre ones.

Cincy
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Congratulations again on the M3s. They must be fantastic based on my experience with the MPros. I have heard the MPros extensively, before and after with MPOds and with and without the pins pulled out. The MPods made a significant improvement. I did notice what you write about the soundstage improving. For me, images stayed the same size but the sound emanating from those images swelled into the room better. I also noticed what I think was a slight improvement in low frequency extension and clarity.

BTW, I had Jim Smith voice my system: Magico Mini 2s. He did a tremendous job. It was a lot of fun, I learned a lot, and the sound became much more involving. He basically told me that once the speakers are playing the room properly, other changes to the system will be more clearly heard. I guess you are finding that out.
 
Cincy2, Over the last couple of months, were you moving the speakers around at all with the Mpods on but with the pins unpulled?
 
Melbguy1 said:
Interesting Bud. I checked the owners manual for my S5 Mk2's and found no reference under the 'Care' section or elsewhere to periodically tightening the drivers' bolts/screws...One would assume all the driver and cabinet screws are carefully tightened to specific torque settings before they leave the factory, hence i'm surprised by your comments/findings. I will contact Magico to try to clear this up as regards to the S5 Mk2 and post their response.
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Bud, I got a response from Magico to my query. I sought clarification after the first message, hence their further response..

Hello David. It is recommended from time to time to hand tighten the bolts holding the drivers in place on the front baffle. This should be done in a star pattern configuration. There is no need to adjust the enclosure bolts as they are tightened using loctitie to ensure they never loosen over time. Thank you for owning a pair of S5 Mk II's. Best regards, The Magico Team.
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David,The frequency of checking the tightness of the bolts holding the transducers is two times per year. Hand tightening is recommended to avoid stripping the bolts. Star configuration (clock wise) is 12-o'clock then 6-o'clock then 2-o'clock then 8-o'clock etc.The SPOD's will make noticeable improvements in imaging refinement and clarity to your S5 Mk II's. Best regards, The Magico Team
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I don't understand this requirement for checking the tightness of the bolts when loctite was used to fasten the bolts in the first place.
 
brodricj said:
I don't understand this requirement for checking the tightness of the bolts when loctite was used to fasten the bolts in the first place.
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If you re-read Magico's response, loctite is only used on the cabinet's bolts, not the driver's bolts.
 
brodricj said:
That's what I thought...it's just that the local Magico speaker repairer told me otherwise.
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There seems to be a disconnect there. Given the choice between the view of an authorized repairer and Magico, i'd defer to Magico's advice in most instances.
 
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