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Hi Paul,

That's a tough one, although I have had Q3's and Q5's here in the same room as the S5II's and S7's. I always felt both the Q3's and Q5's were an overall high level sound producer than the original S5. But then with the new S5II's and 7's I felt like they didn't give up anything to the Q3's and had a much fuller bodied sound, which I felt helped, along with the new tweeters, to "calm things down".

My experience has been with the Q3's/Q5's was that amplification, room (most important) and entire system matching was so crucial to get the top end to my liking. In my room, which actually is a bit "over dampened" I never feel any excess high end energy with the S5II's or the S7's, not matter what electronics I drive them with. I actually don't even notice that the S5II's/S7's have tweeters, I just hear music and can tell nothing to indicate whether notes are coming from the midrange or the tweeter, it's just open, extended on the top music.

So hard hearing systems in different rooms and with different sources and systems to draw any accurate conclusions. I only understand what something sounds like once I get something in my room and live with it for a while. I also realize if I move that same exact set up to a different room, I might have a completely different perspective on everything. Sorry....very nebulous answer.

I find that quite nicely summarized: The room acoustics are part of the chain, whether we like it or not. And probably have greater impact on the overall sound than any single component.

Ergo: a statement only makes sense as x in chain y in environment z. Quite a few variables to take into account.
 
Yes, even for a well designed custom room it is unlikely the location that optimizes the sound stage is likely to also optimize the room nodes. In fact, many consider it impossible. Integration of subs done properly (room nodes and time domain; not just phase) optimizes both and gives you visceral bass that very few floor standers will touch.

I find it hard to believe many audiophile would reject this solution based on taste when done properly, but you can never say never on subjective matters. All that said, Magico probably makes the worlds greatest subs so let's get this party started.


agree on the seperate stack or 4 towers for a SOTA approach , that said many roads lead to rome ...
 
Al, I would invite you if ever in NYC to hear even the S5ii's with the Vitus electronics in a large space and see if you then think that they "need subs".

I will be in NYC from 8th to 14th June ... I would be more than happy to come over.
 
agree on the seperate stack or 4 towers for a SOTA approach , that said many roads lead to rome ...

Thanks man. Coming from someone with your speaker knowledge that means a lot. :rolleyes:

That said, I am guessing you are not so keen on just trying to through two good subs into the right node spots and the working on time alignment? Too tough a cat to skin?
 
I will be in NYC from 8th to 14th June ... I would be more than happy to come over.


Hey Adam,

Would love for you to come and visit! Evenings after 6 pm or Sat and Sunday are best. Just give me a heads up when you get to the city and we will set something up. Also with you visiting the city, if I can be of any assistance with anything prior to your visit or while here just ask. Look forward to meeting you!
 
Thanks man. Coming from someone with your speaker knowledge that means a lot. :rolleyes:

That said, I am guessing you are not so keen on just trying to through two good subs into the right node spots and the working on time alignment? Too tough a cat to skin?

i could explain it , unfortunately it would be too much info at your condescension level..

BTW i cant see through Subs .. :)
 
i could explain it , unfortunately it would be too much info at your condescension level..

BTW i cant see through Subs .. :)

I am sorry but i fear you misread the intent of my post. My bad. I was 100% serious based on the incredible knowledge you have demonstrated in yours post with Vapor and others. You guys are way beyond my understanding. Sorry but I definitely meant it as a compliment.
 
I just looked at the pic's and I was gone. Maybe see you in a few days the MOC!

Yes, that would be fun. I was planning to be there on Friday, but now it looks more like Saturday, as I do have an important customer meeting on Friday. Thursday would be good, but I do not have any vendor tickets for the Vendor/ Dealer day this year.

When are you planning to hit the show?
 
Yes, that would be fun. I was planning to be there on Friday, but now it looks more like Saturday, as I do have an important customer meeting on Friday. Thursday would be good, but I do not have any vendor tickets for the Vendor/ Dealer day this year.

When are you planning to hit the show?
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I will be there all four days.....I will not be at any specific room, just a bunch of meetings and doing the show. My cell is 917-363-7423.....try me on Sat.
 
I am sorry but i fear you misread the intent of my post. My bad. I was 100% serious based on the incredible knowledge you have demonstrated in yours post with Vapor and others. You guys are way beyond my understanding. Sorry but I definitely meant it as a compliment.

after seeing this :rolleyes: i wasnt so sure , misunderstanding both ways ...


cool ..
 
after seeing this :rolleyes: i wasnt so sure , misunderstanding both ways ...


cool ..

No problem on my end; glad you understand. I do greatly learn from and appreciate your comments. One of the few that I can truly trust to be both accurate and not varnished in mercantilism. Thanks.
 
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Even though I still didn't got my S5 mk 2s, I cannot stop thinking about getting the M3 ...
 
Even though I still didn't got my S5 mk 2s, I cannot stop thinking about getting the M3 ...

Join the club! My S5 mk2's are coming in about 2 weeks. And after your comments from Munich, now I want a 511!
 
I can't get that sound out of my head too. I'm affraid you would need to get a complete Soulution setup though.
 
That's what I'm thinking too. 725 preamp with 511 monos!

The soulution 725 is a great preamp with exceptional three dimensionality and non-fatiguing detail. The 520 is also a very, very good preamp. I love the fact that the new 511 can be switched from stereo mode to mono mode. Has me rubbing my chin.
 
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