Magico M2

Elberoth said:
IMO we will sooner see the S7 mk2.....
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Not to sidetrack the thread, but when the S7 was released I was invited to Magico for a demo. Magico has a very quiet listening room, and when you close the door it really is sonically isolated. So, Alon was switching between the S5 and the S7, and I commented on the S5, “This sounds just like my S5.” Alon replies, “That’s the point.” LOL.

The point I was trying to make is my S5 is in the living room, not an isolated, dedicated listening room. :)

Anyway, the S7 was a little better, but not enough to justify the price difference with the S5. However, a V2 version might be a worthwhile final speaker upgrade.
 
Priaptor said:
Well it hasn't been replaced yet so the argument of months is moot. However, the release of the M3 pretty soon after the ultra special and unique and limited edition M Project pretty much demonstrates my point more accurately.

In any case, I really would like to see Magico release a M1. That would be an interesting speaker to me; I gave the Q1 a 3 month shot but ultimately it wasn't for me and I sold it. An M1 would be interesting.
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Priaptor, what didn't you like about the Q1 and what amps did you use?
 
Priaptor said:
I never trashed the Q1. I paid big bucks for the Q1 and Constellation amp and was lucky enough not to loose money when I sold them 3 months later given the press they were receiving at the time. I thought the bass was outstanding for a “monitor” but didn’t like its imaging which was flat and 2 dimensional despite what I felt was as accurate timbre of any monitor speakers available at the time. They didn’t move me as much as my big system at the time and my big system which consisted of NOLA Baby Grands and ARC REF250s I felt were better “monitors” so I moved on. The M series with the new drivers have expanded on what the Q was capable of in terms of imaging.
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It seems that you did not like the imaging of the Q1. Properly set up, I would have assumed they were at least as good as my old Mini 2s, because they were even smaller. Perhaps the flat side walls hurt the imaging. But my experience with the Q3 is completely different. They disappear and image as well as or better than my Mini 2s which were excellent in those regards. I continue to marvel at how completely the Q3s disappear from the room, and their imaging is superb. The Ms, with their curved sides and top, may be even better.
 
Ok, in the spirit of Christmas, let’s just all try to get along. I’ve cleaned up all the threads because I feel the name calling had really gotten out of hand.
 
Mike said:
Ok, in the spirit of Christmas, let’s just all try to get along. I’ve cleaned up all the threads because I feel the name calling had really gotten out of hand.
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Thank you.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all.
 
I no longer see my posts which questioned Howie about his thoughts on the Q1 and the quality of imaging he heard. It seems that this was one of the specific reasons he does not own Magico speakers. Those posts must have been considered off-topic.

Regarding the new M series of speakers, I think much of their shape is precisely about helping the speakers to disappear. Howie made a distinction between disappearing and imaging. What is it about a speaker's design that affects the quality of the images it conveys? I always thought it had something to do with placement in the room, but it must also have something to do with the speaker itself. With these M speakers, Magico seems to be paying a lot of attention to shape. An owner of both the S5 and S5 mk2 told me that the curved top plate really improved the sense of image height in his system.
 
PeterA said:
I no longer see my posts which questioned Howie about his thoughts on the Q1 and the quality of imaging he heard. It seems that this was one of the specific reasons he does not own Magico speakers. Those posts must have been considered off-topic.

Regarding the new M series of speakers, I think much of their shape is precisely about helping the speakers to disappear. Howie made a distinction between disappearing and imaging. What is it about a speaker's design that affects the quality of the images it conveys? I always thought it had something to do with placement in the room, but it must also have something to do with the speaker itself. With these M speakers, Magico seems to be paying a lot of attention to shape. An owner of both the S5 and S5 mk2 told me that the curved top plate really improved the sense of image height in his system.
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I just restored them. See above.
 
LVB said:
It is simple physics. A speaker can’t be small, go low (and sealed), and efficient. Something got to give. No amount of money in the world will change that equation.
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would the correct reading of this be that the Q7 went large in order to retain going low and being efficient? That would explain why that speaker has so much physical depth (not in the sound...the actual cabinet size)
 
Skanda said:
would the correct reading of this be that the Q7 went large in order to retain going low and being efficient? That would explain why that speaker has so much physical depth (not in the sound...the actual cabinet size)
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Precisely, although a similar size loudspeaker with smaller drivers (but same amount), will be less efficient. All things being equal, larger diameter woofers are more efficient (easier coupling to the air).
 
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I must say it really is a gorgeous speaker. Mike, any images of the interior? I'd love to see the structure, midrange enclosure and attachment points for the skin, and front/back baffles.
 
Have they come out with the dimensions of the speaker itself? They gave us the footprint dimensions, just curious how wide the front is.
 
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