Magico M2

Kingsrule said:
Another great Magico design.

I just wish they could figure a way to get their newest additions to be more sensitive, say 94-96 db while keeping their sonic signature.

That would make their speakers even more amazing!
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That's should be relatively easy - power the base drivers separately
Ideally use an inbuilt amp (D Class - shock - horror) & fix the xover point at optimum
Design a 2 way minimalist crossover & Mike's your uncle
NOTE all subject to the current xover points used - data not available to mere mortals
 
Alpinist said:
Hi Bud,

They learned to make the cabinet using monocoque construction, which is stronger, more rigid, lighter and takes up less space than the internal metal skeleton of the M3.

Best,
Ken
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+1

The enclosure design is much more advanced than the M3. M3 is a bit like the Q3 is disguise - built from aluminium panels with carbon fibre 'skins' on both sides (if you take out the M3 drivers, you would see that the inside of the speaker is all aluminium, although AFAIK the side walls are no loger parallel, which is an advancement over the Q series) to make it look nice and help the dispersion.

The M6 on the other hand, is a completely different design. There are no aluminium sidewalls. The whole carbon fibre enclosure is now a monocock, acting as an enclosure with curved walls (so now if you take out the M6 drivers, you would see that the inside of the speaker is all carbon fibre, with curved walls).

M2 is basicly build using the very same technology as the M6. Getting rid of aluminium sidewalls and the accompaning aluminium skeleton, makes the speaker lighter.
 
I’m listening to the sealed cabinet Magico M6’s at this very moment. I am hearing some of the finest bass I’ve ever experienced in terms of impact, texture and articulation.

Ken
 
Alpinist said:
I’m listening to the sealed cabinet Magico M6’s at this very moment. I am hearing some of the finest bass I’ve ever experienced in terms of impact, texture and articulation.

Ken
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The M6 is a wonderful speaker. Heard it in Munich and was impressed.


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Elberoth said:
+1

The enclosure design is much more advanced than the M3. M3 is a bit like the Q3 is disguise - built from aluminium panels with carbon fibre 'skins' on both sides (if you take out the M3 drivers, you would see that the inside of the speaker is all aluminium, although AFAIK the side walls are no loger parallel, which is an advancement over the Q series) to make it look nice and help the dispersion.

The M6 on the other hand, is a completely different design. There are no aluminium sidewalls. The whole carbon fibre enclosure is now a monocock, acting as an enclosure with curved walls (so now if you take out the M6 drivers, you would see that the inside of the speaker is all carbon fibre, with curved walls).

M2 is basicly build using the very same technology as the M6. Getting rid of aluminium sidewalls and the accompaning aluminium skeleton, makes the speaker lighter.
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Sounds like there is an M3 mk2 in the works [emoji3].


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If they can rip out all that machined aluminium in a M3Mk2 perhaps there will be a significant price drop? Here I am, just taken delivery of the last speaker I need ever buy and already there is talk of its replacement (and which might be much lighter and cheaper).
 
brodricj said:
If they can rip out all that machined aluminium in a M3Mk2 perhaps there will be a significant price drop? Here I am, just taken delivery of the last speaker I need ever buy and already there is talk of its replacement (and which might be much lighter and cheaper).
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I wouldn't be holding my breath...
 
So you think we'll see an M1 before we see a M3Mk2? The M2 no doubt has opened up opportunities to make the M3 better.
 
brodricj said:
If they can rip out all that machined aluminium in a M3Mk2 perhaps there will be a significant price drop? Here I am, just taken delivery of the last speaker I need ever buy and already there is talk of its replacement (and which might be much lighter and cheaper).
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Carbon fibre monocoque is much more expensive to manufacture than the enclosure made from extruded aluminium (or any aluminium for that matter).
 
It's expensive to machine and assemble that aluminium internal skeleton. I don't know about CF manufacturing costs, but I would think the CF in a M2/6 design wouldn't cost much more to build than what the side panels in M3 cost. So if their build price comes down, maybe MSRP of the Mk2 will come down also.
 
Started early 2016 and now we almost have 2019. It may be a few months short from beeing 3 years old, but far cry from the 1 year old you have claimed.
 
brodricj said:
It's expensive to machine and assemble that aluminium internal skeleton. I don't know about CF manufacturing costs, but I would think the CF in a M2/6 design wouldn't cost much more to build than what the side panels in M3 cost. So if their build price comes down, maybe MSRP of the Mk2 will come down also.
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You are wrong.
 
Elberoth said:
Carbon fibre monocoque is much more expensive to manufacture than the enclosure made from extruded aluminium (or any aluminium for that matter).
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Is it more expensive because the carbon fiber sides need to be thicker to support the tension of the monocoque design?

Ken
 
The absolute cost in the extra materials (resin and CF fabric) needed to build a thicker panel wouldn't be all that much....the cost is in building the molds and polishing the finished panels, which I'd think would be much the same for M3 and M3Mk2 panels.
 
FYI, the CF monocoque is manufactured by a Canadian company called Apex Composite.
 
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