Showroom Dummies
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I've saved my playlist and it was saved in a second or two. I have about 1900 tracks in my playlist.
The amount of time it took to save, is this about right?
I want to make sure it saved correctly.
Thanks again
Lumin T2
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The amount of time it took to save, is this about right?
I want to make sure it saved correctly.
Thanks again
VoicesInMyHead
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Just as Lumin support...
I'm expecting (hoping) for arrival of the T2 beginning of next week.
Showroom Dummies, seems like you and me is walking on the same path once again....
Showroom Dummies
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Not sure when I will be getting my T2. I was told there is a slight delay with delivery.Just as Lumin support...
I'm expecting (hoping) for arrival of the T2 beginning of next week.
Showroom Dummies, seems like you and me is walking on the same path once again....
It will be interesting what you think of it compared to your D2.
Note that T2 supports DSD512 (so you can play downloaded DSD256 music or use Audirvana or Roon to do DSD512 upsampling) and balanced analog output - if your preamp supports a balanced input that is usually a better choice. Lumin is Roon Ready, and allows you to use alternative control UI. Comparing a dual ES9028PRO design with a single AK4490, the theoretical advantage on paper is obvious. So I don't consider functionality and DAC design to be on the same level. To the other product's credit, they do have internal storage for music, which Lumin players do not.
I'm not a fan of DSD nor of Roon I both consider them a bit meh. Also Sabre DAC are IMHO a bit over hyped. None of the best DACs (EMM labs, dCS, Schiit and Metrum) I've heard uses Sabre DACs. But maybe I should be more open minded. Also EMMlabs and dCS are way out of my price range.
Please do not think that I say Lumin isn't good. Ive heard Lumin at my dealer and I'm especially impressed with the new D2 and U1 mini.
If my dealer will have the T2 on stock I will give it a serious listen. To be honest I'm still a bit on the fence if a dac/streamer in one box is the way to go. But it safes room in my rack and it safes on cables.
VoicesInMyHead
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I've been nothing but happy and very satisfied with my D2, I've really come to appreciate the whole idea of streamer and DAC of equal high quality in a one box solution. Savings on both power and signal cables almost covers the whole cost of the unit and I do believe there are SQ benefits to this as well. I wouldn't stare too much at specific DAC chip and wether you "like it or not", as I believe it's also very much about the actual implementation and how you use it, it's not like all DAC's with a specific chip sounds the same.
I bought the D2 while waiting for the T2 to be released as I felt the older models were becoming a bit dated hardware wise, and maybe also to give Lumin a try before investing too much. The D2 really took me by surprise, a lot of bang for the bucks so to speak and I can't say that I really miss much. I wasn't really looking for a new streamer/dac, but now when the T2 is finally here I cannot resist going for it, it seems by the specs to be everything I wished for.
I'm not using the Lumin app though, I'm a convinced Roon user and that's the way I want a streamer to work, to just be a reciever or endpoint, similar to what Spotify Connect is doing also. In the future I hope all major streaming services like Tidal and Qobuz will work like this also, making software for the hardware devices redundant because how hard they try, they will never be able to keep up with the UI's of these streaming services own solutions.
If I were you @Mordante, I would not hesitate to test the T2 properly when it arrives at your dealer.
I bought the D2 while waiting for the T2 to be released as I felt the older models were becoming a bit dated hardware wise, and maybe also to give Lumin a try before investing too much. The D2 really took me by surprise, a lot of bang for the bucks so to speak and I can't say that I really miss much. I wasn't really looking for a new streamer/dac, but now when the T2 is finally here I cannot resist going for it, it seems by the specs to be everything I wished for.
I'm not using the Lumin app though, I'm a convinced Roon user and that's the way I want a streamer to work, to just be a reciever or endpoint, similar to what Spotify Connect is doing also. In the future I hope all major streaming services like Tidal and Qobuz will work like this also, making software for the hardware devices redundant because how hard they try, they will never be able to keep up with the UI's of these streaming services own solutions.
If I were you @Mordante, I would not hesitate to test the T2 properly when it arrives at your dealer.
I think the software that comes with the streamer for me is deal maker/breaker. I expect the software to be good and I expect regular updates. Buy 3rd party software, no thank you. My NAS isn't powerful enough to run software like Roon and the idea that i would have to buy a computer and keep it running all the time to run streaming software seems odd to me.
VoicesInMyHead
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Well, to me it's the other way around, using a hardware vendors UI is making me feel locked in and limited, where Roon and Spotify Connect is giving me the freedom of using what I want, I can change streamer in a second without having any dependencies, libraries or playlists to be concerned about. I can see that it looks simple and convenient to you, and it's good that a UI is provided of course, but I sincerely hope that the future of streaming is moving more towards technologies like Roon and Spotify Connect as I described above, where the streamer is just playing what you tell it to play, from wherever, in highest possible quality. But, we're not really there yet, and unless you want to use Roon or Spotify, your current option is to go with a streamer UI that you like. I think the Lumin app has got some praise, but I haven't really bothered looking myself as I have no interest in it.
Maybe if Roon would be less then 100euro and would be fully integrated on a streaming device. Yes then I'd might consider it. But paying 500euro for a UI to me seems way over the top and an additional 500euro for mac mini (for the core I think it is called) or similar seems like a lot of money to me. Maybe Roon should release a basic version, just the UI without the resampling options and without the allmusic link for say 1/4 fourth of the regular price.
A version that would be fully integrated into the streaming device.
Showroom Dummies
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The Lumin app works well on Apple products but from my experience and from feedback I've read, not very good on Android devices.
Lucky there is a good alternative: BubbleUPnP, which works brilliantly on my Android mobile.
Lucky there is a good alternative: BubbleUPnP, which works brilliantly on my Android mobile.
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I have a T2 on order (silver). At $4500 (introductory price for now), it will be hard to beat at that price. I’m hearing it beats the A1. We shall see.
VoicesInMyHead
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Just unboxed and set it up, first impressions are GREAT and a big step up from the D2. Will give it some time to settle and hopefully I will have more time to listen tomorrow night. It feels like a real winner though....
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My T2 should arrive this Thursday.
[QUOTE = VoicesInMyHead; 260107]
Solo sin caja y configúrelo, las primeras impresiones son EXCELENTES y son un gran paso desde la D2. Le daré algo de tiempo para establecerse y espero tener más tiempo para escuchar mañana por la noche. Se siente como un verdadero ganador aunque ...[/ QUOTE]
Congratulations!!! enjoy it. More details please when you can. Greetings.
Solo sin caja y configúrelo, las primeras impresiones son EXCELENTES y son un gran paso desde la D2. Le daré algo de tiempo para establecerse y espero tener más tiempo para escuchar mañana por la noche. Se siente como un verdadero ganador aunque ...
[/ QUOTE]Congratulations!!! enjoy it. More details please when you can. Greetings.
VoicesInMyHead
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Well... As one of the first happy owners to receive my unit I guess I should write a few words about it...
I have been waiting for the T2 since this summer when I bought the D2, I simply didn't want to go with one of the older models as I thought they were all becoming a bit dated. The D2 had already been launched and I figured an update of the rest of the field was not far away. Meanwhile, the D2 blew all my expectations and I've been very happy with it, but when the T2 was finally announced I just couldn't resist it as it seemed to be all I wanted in the first place.
Immediately when I connected it yesterday I could tell this was a big step up from the D2. As expected when climbing upwards a product ladder it's just more of everything, larger soundstage, more details, more 3-dimensional, deeper bass etc. But something that struck me early was just how effortless and relaxed the music seemed to flow, like the easiest thing in the world. Music feels vivid, more real and intense. I'm trying to avoid words as analogue and organic, but maybe that's exactly what it is. It moves me.
These are still early impressions and I know from the D2 that some burn in time will only do it good and I expect the same here. I'm upsampling to DSD256 with Roon as my current server can't handle DSD512, but a new one capable of that will hopefully arrive before the weekend.
I have no idea how it compares to the T1 as I've never tried it, I have no doubt that it's better though as there would be no reason for a new version otherwise, but if it's worth the money to upgrade I don't know, but I would like to think so!
If someone is currently using a separate DAC and some other streaming solution, having high quality cables to and between these, combining it all into a very VERY nice one-box package with high quality streaming and fabulous DAC, then the T2 would be considered a bargain and almost pay for itself by just getting rid of the unnecessary boxes and cables. To me the T2 is a real winner.
I like it.
A LOT!!!
I have been waiting for the T2 since this summer when I bought the D2, I simply didn't want to go with one of the older models as I thought they were all becoming a bit dated. The D2 had already been launched and I figured an update of the rest of the field was not far away. Meanwhile, the D2 blew all my expectations and I've been very happy with it, but when the T2 was finally announced I just couldn't resist it as it seemed to be all I wanted in the first place.
Immediately when I connected it yesterday I could tell this was a big step up from the D2. As expected when climbing upwards a product ladder it's just more of everything, larger soundstage, more details, more 3-dimensional, deeper bass etc. But something that struck me early was just how effortless and relaxed the music seemed to flow, like the easiest thing in the world. Music feels vivid, more real and intense. I'm trying to avoid words as analogue and organic, but maybe that's exactly what it is. It moves me.
These are still early impressions and I know from the D2 that some burn in time will only do it good and I expect the same here. I'm upsampling to DSD256 with Roon as my current server can't handle DSD512, but a new one capable of that will hopefully arrive before the weekend.
I have no idea how it compares to the T1 as I've never tried it, I have no doubt that it's better though as there would be no reason for a new version otherwise, but if it's worth the money to upgrade I don't know, but I would like to think so!
If someone is currently using a separate DAC and some other streaming solution, having high quality cables to and between these, combining it all into a very VERY nice one-box package with high quality streaming and fabulous DAC, then the T2 would be considered a bargain and almost pay for itself by just getting rid of the unnecessary boxes and cables. To me the T2 is a real winner.
I like it.
A LOT!!!