Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

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All the inputs I use are digital anyway…optical from TV and HDMI from Bluray,Xbox, Media player so perfect for me. The only analog source I have is my Teac PD 501 DSD player, which I can plug in directly to my Nagra integrated.
 
Interesting.
I let my ears lead the way.
I don't care if it's class "D" or "A" or tube or solid state or digital or analog.
What's MOST important to me is how it sounds.
YMMV

Im glad, and I most certainly could have expanded as to why I answered “yes” to your question, although it really isnt relevant. My point was, a long standing Dealer, long before they give their opinion on any product they sell, should comprehensively understand, and thoroughly inform, how the product functions regardless whether that helps or hurts their sale.

The fact that P1 goes through an ADC process when used as an analog input preamp is significant. That should have been mentioned, either this Dealer has no clue, or they intentionally omitted it. Both would not be acceptable to me and its why people really have to trust who they buy from. Ive been fooled more than once by a Dealers incompetence and lack of knowledge, shame on me and never again.
 
I agree that knowing the presence of ADC is important to many people, especially in light of the recent controversy with a certain label. A few months ago I even corrected a reviewer about this when I was sent a draft review for technical accuracy check (but they don't normally send to me personally - I highly recommend all reviewers do that).

By the same token, if I am buying a cable, I do need to know whether it's copper or silver or something else.

As for the YouTube, hmmm, I think I got a different message / conclusion than some of the posts above.
 
I have a question for Peter, or any P1 user/owner.
Why is there no input selection for Ethernet/optical Ethernet?
I can switch to optical to feed the sound from my TV to the P1, but when I want to switch back to music over Ethernet, the only way is to start the music playing and hope that it works. Or am I missing something obvious?
 
When you want to play something from Ethernet, you need to choose what you need to play - pull. That's unlike a TV toslink output - the TV is always pushing audio data to the toslink.

To change from external input to network playback, just tap any track on the Lumin app playlist, or play from Tidal app / Spotify app / Roon / AirPlay, etc.

Or, press Play or Radio on the IR remote.
 
Thanks Peter, that is what I have been doing, and it works fine.
I just thought a selection button would make more sense, but I guess I missed the “pull” versus “push” difference.
 
I installed an LFD power cord into my P1 this morning. I was using the stock PC up until now, nice uplift right off the bat. I traded some unused gear for it, so no cost outlay, gotta like that. Let’s see what happens after I get some hours on it.
 

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Users in Canada please check whether you can now access Qobuz:
https://twitter.com/qobuz/status/1648627507405651970?s=20

Peter I just tried signing up, which was a month free trial and it would not let me. It said my Zip code was incorrect. I am guessing because it is a Canadian Zip code? Any suggestions?
Ok I somehow got it to work by logging in on Qobuz Canada website. It sounds great on 16/44.1 material, but the 3 192 KHz songs I have tried are stuttering…. I suspect my garbage internet is to blame for this.
 
I thought I would post about file storage with my P1. Up until now I have only had a 64 GB thumb drive inserted into the USB port on the back of my P1. After deciding not to renew my Roon subscription I had to try a new way to access my downloads, so I inserted my WD (3TB) hard drive into the USB port.
The hard drive has about 2,300 albums on it, so I was not sure it would work, maybe too large?
Well I can happily report it is working fine, currently playing Trio Jeepy from the hard drive.
I know there is a Roon only mode, which I never got around to trying, but to me it sounds great directly plugged into the back, no need for a Roon subscription or hardware to run the core.😀
 
I thought I would post about file storage with my P1. Up until now I have only had a 64 GB thumb drive inserted into the USB port on the back of my P1. After deciding not to renew my Roon subscription I had to try a new way to access my downloads, so I inserted my WD (3TB) hard drive into the USB port.
The hard drive has about 2,300 albums on it, so I was not sure it would work, maybe too large?
Well I can happily report it is working fine, currently playing Trio Jeepy from the hard drive.
I know there is a Roon only mode, which I never got around to trying, but to me it sounds great directly plugged into the back, no need for a Roon subscription or hardware to run the core.😀

Very cool. Just a question for you: how was your external USB drive formatted?

I've found my P1 sounds best when using the native Lumin app, but I still use Roon to discover new content, and with an Altaira dedicated to just the P1, it still sounds excellent. Another really nice feature is you can toggle completely seamlessly between both apps, Roon and the Lumin app.
 
Very cool. Just a question for you: how was your external USB drive formatted?

I've found my P1 sounds best when using the native Lumin app, but I still use Roon to discover new content, and with an Altaira dedicated to just the P1, it still sounds excellent. Another really nice feature is you can toggle completely seamlessly between both apps, Roon and the Lumin app.

I did not reformat the hard drive when I bought it, just whatever it came with, so not sure on that question.
I did like Roon, but I had the Core running on an old Laptop. Recently it stopped working ( fan error), so that is why I decided to try plugging it directly into the P1. I use the Lumin App for everything now, so buying a Nucleaus and adding the subscription seems like added cost that would be better spent on a new Shunyata power cord, or one of those Altaira units that you are using.
 
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I use the Lumin App for everything now, so buying a Nucleaus and adding the subscription seems like added cost that would be better spent on a new Shunyata power cord, or one of those Altaira units that you are using.

Yep, I would agree. If you have the budget, get the Omega QR-s for your P1. And, the Altaira is...transformative.
 
Yep, I would agree. If you have the budget, get the Omega QR-s for your P1. And, the Altaira is...transformative.

Hi Puma, a fellow P1 owner here. A question on the P1 and Altaira: do you have one Altaira unit/box dedicated to only the P1? Can I also connect my other components to the same Altaira unit? I’ve been trying to read up Shunyata’s website on the grounding configuration options using Altaira but I’m just lost 😁 I’m new to grounding so appreciate your help.

Thanks,
Norman
 
Hi Puma, a fellow P1 owner here. A question on the P1 and Altaira: do you have one Altaira unit/box dedicated to only the P1? Can I also connect my other components to the same Altaira unit? I’ve been trying to read up Shunyata’s website on the grounding configuration options using Altaira but I’m just lost 😁 I’m new to grounding so appreciate your help.

Thanks,
Norman

Hi Norman,
There are a number of ways you can go with your Altaira set-up. You can connect multiple components to the same Altaira unit, and which hub you use depends on how you want to configure the system.

If you are going to connect all your components to a single Altaira, the guidance is to use a CG Altaira hub. You can connect, say, your P1 (using it's chassis ground terminal on the back), an amp, a preamp if you also use one, a DAC or phono stage, to that one CG hub.

You can also use multiple Altairas in what is referred to as a segmented system. One way to do this is to have one segment be the "digital segment", for example, a DAC, streamer or network bridge, Ethernet switch, music server, etc. You'd connect all these to the same SG Altaira. Then, you could have as second segment in what I refer to as the "analog amplification segment", for example, a preamp, tuner, phono stage and amplifier.

In my case, I use "segmented" Altaira system comprised of two segments, each using an SG Altaira hub.

The digital segment SG hub is connected to the P1, and the "analog amplification segment" SG Altaira is solely connected to my Constellation integrated amp.

Hope this helps.
 
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