Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

MaxH13 said:
In my opinion the LUMIN app is superior to Roon and whist MQA is ‘different’, it sounds to my ear like someone has left the loudness switch on so, after using it for a while, I stopped using it.
Also, there used to be a choice of Hi Res or MQA but now many recordings only have MQA available so it’s a non too subtle conversion system over to MQA - hence I use Qobuz now.
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Hi Max, I get what you are saying about the loudness button, but I live in an apartment building, so that actually helps with my normal lower volume listening.
Too early to form any solid opinion yet, so back to the music.
 
No Quarter said:
Thanks for the reply Peter, I am home now and have been listening to MQA for a couple of hours now.
First impression is quite good, it feels more like I am in the room with the artist.
I see the little MQA on the front panel and also see the squiggly line in the App next to the song I am playing.
Also at the top left of the page in the App, next to the picture of the Album cover, I noticed higher KHz and bit rate numbers.
Currently listening to Etta James 192 KHz 24 Bit, so I think I have it.
I am still trying to figure out how to play more than one song at a time, need to study that online manual closer.
I will say, so far some songs still sound better than others, it is not a universal MQA is better across the board.
Back to the listening, might give the Tidal connect a try now.
Thanks again
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The best section to read is here:
LUMIN App Browsing

In particular the Add to Playlist and Info Pop-up sections.
Note that changing the "Tap on Song List" setting changes the app behaviour significantly, so should definitely be investigated.
My recommendation is Double-tap and Play Later.

Also worth reading both pages of the Hints & Tips section of the manual.
 
Like Max I found I prefer Qobuz to Tidal/MQA. I use Qobuz exclusively now, and at low volumes like you do. May want to give it a try.
 
jmusica said:
Like Max I found I prefer Qobuz to Tidal/MQA. I use Qobuz exclusively now, and at low volumes like you do. May want to give it a try.
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Unfortunately I live in Canada, we do not have Qobuz here. This is why I am hoping for MQA to be worthwhile.
Spotify Hifi should be available in Canada, if they ever release it.
 
thingswelike said:
The best section to read is here:
LUMIN App Browsing

In particular the Add to Playlist and Info Pop-up sections.
Note that changing the "Tap on Song List" setting changes the app behaviour significantly, so should definitely be investigated.
My recommendation is Double-tap and Play Later.

Also worth reading both pages of the Hints & Tips section of the manual.
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Thank you so much, will check this out when I have a little time.
 
My SFP modules have arrived, just waiting on the optical cable now so I can try the optical input.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that there is a sequence to follow when switching over to optical, is that in the online manual somewhere?
I must say that the online manual can be confusing to me, I sure wish someone would post a YouTube tutorial video about how to use the App.
Single tap, double tap…huh? Still confused about most of this App features.
I have read the Tidal section, Add to playlist, info Pop-up section, but still kind of baffled as to what the heck I am doing.
Usually just end up hitting buttons till I hear music, but even then I don’t know if one song will play, an album, a playlist…who knows.😖
 
Yeah, the user experience and manual aren’t the best, but the sound and build quality make up for it.

I can’t think of why there would be an order to switching over to optical. What I would do/have done: power down, disconnect the copper ethernet cable, insert the SFP, connect optical cable, power back up. Imo that should be it.
 
Yes I will follow the order you suggest. I just remember reading somewhere that if you happened to leave the original Ethernet hooked up, and insert the optical, you would brick the unit.
 
No Quarter said:
if you happened to leave the original Ethernet hooked up, and insert the optical, you would brick the unit.
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It will not brick the unit but it will bring down your whole network temporarily (due to forming a network loop), until you remove one of the network connections.

Please connect the fiber cable to the SFP module before inserting the module into the P1 / X1. (If it's X1 beware of the orientation as X1 is mounted upside down.) Some SFP modules require some force to be inserted fully until you feel a mechanical click.
 
Thank you Peter, are you suggesting that I leave my switch (Cisco 2960) powered on when I unplug the Ethernet/plug in the optical Ethernet? I was planning on powering down the P1 and the switch. Good info about hearing the cable click into place, will do.
 
I got the Fibre working with no problem, and WOW, just WOW! Huge upgrade in my setup over the regular Ethernet input. From the first note I had a big grin on my face, and it is still there. I feel like I am listening to a different machine, so much body, soul, meat on the bones to the music now….awesome.
One thing I noticed, now I can control the volume with my IPad volume button now. That seems new to me, but it might of been something I never noticed before.
Anyway, very happy with the Fibre input, using a Cisco switch, nothing fancy.All this for $70 dollars 😎
 
I have had this switch for a few years Peter, it is a 2960 8tc.
What I said earlier about being able to adjust volume with my I pad only seems to work when I am using Tidal connect with the Tidal App. Using the Lumin App the volume of the IPad has no effect, does this sound normal?
 
If you're referring to the iPad or Android physical volume buttons, Lumin apps do not support it.

To control the volume using iPad, please launch Lumin app, and adjust the volume circle inside the Lumin app.

P1 is shipped with a Lumin physical remote, you may use that as well.
 
Yes I was referring to the physical volume buttons on the top edge of my IPad. I will check again when I get home, but I am pretty sure those buttons were controlling the volume, this was while inside the Tidal App, using connect.
They did not affect volume while inside the Lumin App, playing music from there. I also have/use Roon, which I have the App installed on my IPad too.
I will try adjusting with the IPad buttons while inside the Roon App too, when I get home.
By the way, I use a Nagra integrated which has it’s own remote and volume control, not going Amp direct, but want to try it soon with an Anthem amp I have in a closet.
 
Yes you may use some non-Lumin music apps that support the iOS / Android physical volume buttons to control volume of the Lumin hardware. However, Lumin native app does not.
 
Hello Peter
I was just made aware that Qobuz formed a partnership with a company in Montreal that is kind of an offshoot of Qobuz. The name is QUB musique, I am hoping that I can use this with my P1.
Will it work is the question? I am in Ontario, not Quebec, so I have not even tried the free trial yet. I keep hearing that Qobuz is better sounding than Tidal, which is all we have access to at the moment. I am browsing their website right now and it says $4.99/ month plus tax, which would be an absolute bargain. Any info on this?
 
Based on what I see (or don't see) in Roon forum, I don't think that QUB musique is the same, so I don't expect it to work.

As far as I know, if you have access to a credit card from a country that has Qobuz, you can VPN to that country to create an account and setup payment via Paypal. After that you no longer need the VPN.
 
wklie said:
Based on what I see (or don't see) in Roon forum, I don't think that QUB musique is the same, so I don't expect it to work.

As far as I know, if you have access to a credit card from a country that has Qobuz, you can VPN to that country to create an account and setup payment via Paypal. After that you no longer need the VPN.
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Thanks for the reply Peter, but I am not really a computer wiz, so all that VPN stuff seems to be over my skill set.
Also I do not have a PayPal account, or know anyone from other countries that would do that for me. Hopefully Qobuz will arrive in Canada at some point.
 
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