Lake Tahoe Drought

[Golucid]

As you can see in this photo, there's a lot of sand. I own a 150 feet of that sandy beach.

Nevada law, you own to the low water line. California, high water line. I am a Nevada resident.

I never dreamed I would now own an acre plus of beach front from the shore zone, but this is not a good thing. I can no longer bring my jet ski's and boat to my pier and slips. In this shot, all that rock should be many feet under water.

Each year, the water recedes further. My water craft is at a marine locker. I've been cautioned to launch at your own risk - damage to the hull of your water craft.

I expect another scarce year of craft jet setting across the lake.

 

[MikeCh]

As you can see in this photo, there's a lot of sand. I own a 150 feet of that sandy beach.

Nevada law, you own to the low water line. California, high water line. I am a Nevada resident.

I never dreamed I would now own an acre plus of beach front from the shore zone, but this is not a good thing. I can no longer bring my jet ski's and boat to my pier and slips. In this shot, all that rock should be many feet under water.

Each year, the water recedes further. My water craft is at a marine locker. I've been cautioned to launch at your own risk - damage to the hull of your water craft.

I expect another scarce year of craft jet setting across the lake.

First world problem?

Wow.

I'm not surprised that the word drought is not understood in California, Arizona and Nevada. Maybe this year will be a first.

 

[MusicDirector]

First world problem?

Wow.

I'm not surprised that the word drought is not understood in California, Arizona and Nevada. Maybe this year will be a first.

One can only hope, but we are talking California. California has almost no hope of understanding much of anything.

 

[Vapor1]

I thought of this when you first posted it, but just refreshed my memory seeing that your neck of the woods has been wet lately. How can there be that much difference in the water line when Tahoe is currently at 6223', which is the same as the natural rim of the lake? Water levels in the lake are exactly where they should be, at least according to USGS data.

 

[Golucid]

While you are reading the data, and stats and data are easily and often maniupulated. I live here and we the locals, well...the physical is what speaks truth. I've attached a photo. Observe the red circle and arrow. This was covered numerous feet under water. Notice the mooring buoys - Additionally, all the rock formations are usually covered many feet under water. Worse, I am no longer able to dock here nor able to bring my boat or jet skis to my pier. I now have more than an acre of sandy beach front property. I disagree with the stats.

 

[Audioseduction]

So sad. I think it will get worse due to climate change. It will be a permanent change of lifestyle.

 

[Vapor1]

While you are reading the data, and stats and data are easily and often maniupulated. I live here and we the locals, well...the physical is what speaks truth. I've attached a photo. Observe the red circle and arrow. This was covered numerous feet under water. Notice the mooring buoys - Additionally, all the rock formations are usually covered many feet under water. Worse, I am no longer able to dock here nor able to bring my boat or jet skis to my pier. I now have more than an acre of sandy beach front property. I disagree with the stats.

Well, the 'stats' are elevation above sea level. There's no faking that data, so the lake level is real and known. My point is what else has changed to cause exposure of so much lake bed? The absolute maximum level for Tahoe is only 6' higher than it is now.

 

[Golucid]

Well, the 'stats' are elevation above sea level. There's no faking that data, so the lake level is real and known. My point is what else has changed to cause exposure of so much lake bed? The absolute maximum level for Tahoe is only 6' higher than it is now.

My response is to come live here and experience the environment both visually and physically. I only can report my personal experience and the discussion that I have with my neighbors and folks that have lived here 20, 30, 40 and more years and what they are experiencing. Tahoe, is a small town [less the tourists] The changes I am working through are vastly different than those I have championed over the past 15 years. 6 feet... ok.

 

[Vapor1]

My response is to come live here and experience the environment both visually and physically. I only can report my personal experience and the discussion that I have with my neighbors and folks that have lived here 20, 30, 40 and more years and what they are experiencing. Tahoe, is a small town [less the tourists] The changes I am working through are vastly different than those I have championed over the past 15 years. 6 feet... ok.

I've been to Tahoe a couple times through the years, and think it's one of the most beautiful places in the country. For at least 6 months of the year I'd love to live there, couldn't handle the winters though.

I'm a Meteorologist btw, so I'm just asking out of interest. Lake level data goes back over 100 years, and it's only 6' below the max and even with natural rim level right now. It's easy to go to the USGS site and plot data back to the early 1900's, it's been as low or lower than current many times through the years according to the data.

 

[Golucid]

I've been to Tahoe a couple times through the years, and think it's one of the most beautiful places in the country. For at least 6 months of the year I'd love to live there, couldn't handle the winters though.

I'm a Meteorologist btw, so I'm just asking out of interest. Lake level data goes back over 100 years, and it's only 6' below the max and even with natural rim level right now. It's easy to go to the USGS site and plot data back to the early 1900's, it's been as low or lower than current many times through the years according to the data.

I am close friends with the Meteorologist with KTUU [Anchorage Alaska]. She and I talk about drought often. She fills me in on lots of tid-bits about weather. It's a deep subject and profession.

 

[Dizzie]

First world problem?

Wow.

I'm not surprised that the word drought is not understood in California, Arizona and Nevada. Maybe this year will be a first.

One can only hope, but we are talking California. California has almost no hope of understanding much of anything.

If you don't have anything constructive to say why don't you go and listen to some music? Trashing an entire state is not productive. And how would you presume to know what Californians understand or not understand?

Don from Sacramento.

 

[mep]

Don-I'm trying to think this one through. I know it's not OK to say something about an audio component that's expensive and people on this forum own even if it's the truth because it might hurt their feelings and they will find it necessary to run to the mods and cry on the way to their therapy session. However, it's always OK to trash reviewers on any audio forum because they don't have feelings. And in this case, maybe it's OK to trash all the people from an entire state based on stereotypes and insinuate the entire population is as sharp as a bowling ball. We will see I guess.

One thing I have learned over the years is that people don't like the truth unless it suits their version of the truth. In your case, you are upset over ridiculous statements people have made about the entire population of California and I understand why you feel slighted because those statements aren't based on truth and reality.

 

[dlb2]

David, I can feel your pain. I have a place on a lake and for the last 20 odd years the water levels had been dropping. There is a break wall at the edge and the bottom of the lake extended out a good ten feet at the water's lowest point. Over the past two to three years the snowfall amounts have been increasing and that along with lower temps in the winter have brought the lake level to almost its highest point ever. It's all about cycles and I'm sure in time your water levels will be back up to where you want them.

 

[MikeCh]

If you don't have anything constructive to say why don't you go and listen to some music? Trashing an entire state is not productive. And how would you presume to know what Californians understand or not understand?

Don from Sacramento.

Sorry if I offended anyone. I hope your State and the others mentioned prove me wrong this year with my assumptions regarding the understanding of what drought is and how to use water wisely.

 

[Golucid]

David, I can feel your pain. I have a place on a lake and for the last 20 odd years the water levels had been dropping. There is a break wall at the edge and the bottom of the lake extended out a good ten feet at the water's lowest point. Over the past two to three years the snowfall amounts have been increasing and that along with lower temps in the winter have brought the lake level to almost its highest point ever. It's all about cycles and I'm sure in time your water levels will be back up to where you want them.

No doubt Vapor1 is likely technically correct. I wonder about other variables such as our aquifers and that others areas could be worse off than others. It's easy to "blanket" and perceptions but the planet is one giant variable. Again, I don't know - I am not a scientist. All I can go off of is what I am seeing and experiencing. My property, I have both a well and draw water directly from the lake.

Despite all the banter about how severe things are....My thought...

I have a renewed appreciation and value for our precious planet earth resources.