KeithR
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Soft in the bass, limited power, expensive tubes
midrange purity is the big upside.
Killer 300b amps
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Soft in the bass, limited power, expensive tubes
midrange purity is the big upside.
Paul
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YES : Expensive Tubes
NO : Soft Bass . Limited Power - Not on High efficient speakers ( Which 300B amps are made for anyway )
My Tannoy with Allnic A5000DHT can produce more power & tighter bass than MC275's or MC601's believe or not
oh i believe it , im shaking the rear wall off my house his week.lol. its rock and roll week over here. :yahoo1: i want those amps paul!!!!! i usually dont play music too loud , but when new speakers are in the house i gotta for a couple weeks . put them through their paces.
dlb2
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oh btw, the downside for me with 300b's is none. i love them and i love to go hear other amps and gear but at the end of the day i love coming back to my system which was a fraction of what i spent the day listening to most of the time.
i like the smooth presentation of the less efficient fabers, with vocals and mids to die for, and the big huge dynamic sound of the cornwalls, even if i miss a little vocal beauty and lush midrange. they will both be used equally so i get the best of both worlds.
300bz 4 life!!!
i like the smooth presentation of the less efficient fabers, with vocals and mids to die for, and the big huge dynamic sound of the cornwalls, even if i miss a little vocal beauty and lush midrange. they will both be used equally so i get the best of both worlds.
300bz 4 life!!!
Paul
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currently my down side is hum or noise ( we will find out tomorrow) I never had this problem with KT88 or 845 but with 300B.
might be a tube in the line. i had a low thumping in one speaker and switched tubes from one side to the other to see if it was an amp tube, and it went away. i dont know why???
i get no noise unless the mute button is off and the volume is real high. first thing i usually test.
dlb2
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Must be the CD player. :lol:
Paul
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You better run fast. forest !!!!
dlb2
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I agree with Steve, probably just a tube. Is there a hum pot on those that you can adjust?
Paul
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Mr Park sent me an email today.
He said it could be the agitation of the tubes (HL-2,3A-110A or 5U4G) He claimed that all these tubes are NOS but about 50 to 60 yrs old. Well Mark Jones will come down tomorrow hope we can figure out.
He said it could be the agitation of the tubes (HL-2,3A-110A or 5U4G) He claimed that all these tubes are NOS but about 50 to 60 yrs old. Well Mark Jones will come down tomorrow hope we can figure out.
I agree with Steve
that might be my new sig quote.lmao!!!!
dlb2
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Good luck Paul. Hopefully it's not a pain in the neck. I'm sure it won't be.
Welcome to the dark side.
Speaking of dark side, how's that vinyl sounding?
Welcome to the dark side.
Speaking of dark side, how's that vinyl sounding?
Paul
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The vinyl sounds wonderful....finally sounds like the analog with the Westminster Royal GR with Tubes.
I was so disappointed with my older speakers when I played the vinyl it was too much sounds like digital....
I was so disappointed with my older speakers when I played the vinyl it was too much sounds like digital....
dlb2
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That's great to hear Paul. Vinyl rules, Tubes rule, (I'm starting to sound like Mike!). Sounds like you've taken hook, line and sinker! (and that's a good thing!) Now you can start building a great vinyl library and stop worrying about which (insert gear list here) to buy.
KeithR
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I actually have 101db efficient speakers- Zu Definition MkIVs. 8 watts can run out of juice/sound strained on them- they run much better on Zu Druids which are more single driver and 16 ohms. Jeff Day said the same thing about the Westminsters running out of gas- its not just a efficiency thing.
re: bass- play the Tron soundtrack (by Daft Punk), tracks 1&2. I feel 300B can give a mid-bass bump, but in the lower registers it's lacking with impact. I even had Audion 845s at 25 watts that were destroyed in the bass by a 15w set of beautiful Quad IIs. 845s are known to give up some of that 300B midrange purity for more shove/better bass. I also owned MC601s on the same speakers and they had outstanding bass/drive. Now, SETs can definitely give more textured bass.
All this is just to say there are trade-offs. It depends on room, listening volume, music etc. I like to rock out and play electronica- so my needs may be different from others. The other reason this thread is a bit silly is that the tube doesn't solely determine the sound, the implementation is arguably even more important.
Cheers,
KeithR
Paul
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Yes It all depends on room . volume and music but again we are talking about three different speakers with totally different gears.
So we will never find out until we get together I do not have the Tron soundtrack due to I do not listen those genre of music. However with my music collection I never found any running out of juice or lacking on bass. Even Jeff Day's Westminster's are different than mine. I had a chance to get a Special Edition almost half price than mine but I always found somewhat upper midrange hump that needs to be tamed on SE version. The new Gold Reference series has been corrected hump issue with new treated cross over and wires with different driver as well and of cause price increased 32% more compare to SE.
My 601's definitely not giving me any better bass for sure. Still questioning myself ....some one can explain ?
P.S : On second thought. I don't think not many 300B users are listening to electronica music on them. You will need bigger tubes for sure
So we will never find out until we get together
I do not have the Tron soundtrack due to I do not listen those genre of music. However with my music collection I never found any running out of juice or lacking on bass. Even Jeff Day's Westminster's are different than mine. I had a chance to get a Special Edition almost half price than mine but I always found somewhat upper midrange hump that needs to be tamed on SE version. The new Gold Reference series has been corrected hump issue with new treated cross over and wires with different driver as well and of cause price increased 32% more compare to SE. My 601's definitely not giving me any better bass for sure. Still questioning myself ....some one can explain ?
P.S : On second thought. I don't think not many 300B users are listening to electronica music on them. You will need bigger tubes for sure
i have spoke with someone at zu , cant remember his name off hand. he told me the zu's had a little issue running on the 8w sophias in the past. he didnt say what it was but he said he couldnt recommend it until he heard further with their newer models.
thats what turned me off of zu, because the sophias will make an appearance at my place eventually. but the 15w carys would do the job i bet.
im looking into a baby sophia right now. its a tiny 10w integrated, but i want to use it for a preamp, which the people at sophia tell me is doable. and it will also give me a great 10w option to run by itself into the cornwalls. i buy it for $900 and they give me 2 weeks to decide if i want to keep it. not too bad.
i dont see my cary ever running out of juice into these cornwalls. so loud right now i can barely type. ok back to stevie wonder!!!
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What's the thought on AirTight 300b?
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wow i haven thought about that air tight 300b in years. i think it was in 08 or 09 when i first heard it, and i liked it alot, but that was a long time and alot of equipment ago. im sure there is an updated version as well by now. i would love to know thoughts on it as well.