Job pre2 - just took delivery
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Gotta get me some of those. I upgrade the stock 12au7s but left the stock rectifiers. Need to try those Dutch babies.
Jack
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It is going to be touch and go on the Primaluna with the Job. The PL has a gain of 10db. I am running my switchable gain tube preamp on the 8db setting and still get some tube rush I don't get with the other three amps. Hope it sounds great though, because I have an Odyssey Audio Kismet amp on the way and it would be a near perfect match for it.
It is going to be touch and go on the Primaluna with the Job. The PL has a gain of 10db. I am running my switchable gain tube preamp on the 8db setting and still get some tube rush I don't get with the other three amps. Hope it sounds great though, because I have an Odyssey Audio Kismet amp on the way and it would be a near perfect match for it.
Jack
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According to the reviewers, Primaluna's stock tubes are pretty damn good compared to other manufacturers.
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Good to know.
CDLehner
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I'm pretty sure, they're re-branded Shuguang.
Wow.. just bought the Hugo and paired wiyh Job 225. Throughly dissapointed.. even my arcam irdac had better soundstage. There is this post ringing i dont likr about it.. vocals are pushd forward which give you a bit more intimacy with vocals but soundstage is small... maybe bcuz i am skipping preamp going straight to amp.. for headphones it sounds ok.
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CDLehner
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For about 10 years, I have been disc-less...and therefore, a single-source, digital 'phile. As such...when the rage was to just use a quality DAC, as pre-amp; I was all over it.
What was not to like; eliminate a piece of kit from the chain...PC, ICs, etc. And while some did a better job than others...I'll tell you, what was "not to like"; at least in my own experience and preference. The SOUND!
At their worse...the presentation was thin, and anemic sounding; at it's best...pretty linear and transparent, which some may prefer even to this day. I tried this DAC, and that DAC; and you get used to that sound, and it becomes a matter of degrees...between this model and that. But then I thought "maybe I should go back to a pre-amp"...and, step up my game on one as well.
It turns out...that is really more to my liking. I hate to keep falling back on this; but it was the proverbial "putting of meat, on the musical bones"...lol. Just a fuller, more 3-D presentation to my ears; and that's what I like. Now granted...I've always used tube amps; and that's also what I like about tubes. But what I'm really talking about, is active...versus passive, pre-amplification.
Now, that being said...I am using m Oppo HA-1 in that regard right now (only out of necessity, since I sold-off my ARC SP-16L and am trying to find its successor); and I have to say, it does about as good a job...as any I have tried before. And I welcome, a top-quality DAC and active pre-amp...all in one box. But to my knowledge, usually you're only talking about volume control, passive pre-amplification...and/or a tube-buffer, at best.
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I think I might have spoken a little too soon about the Hugo,. It could be that it didn't break in or something else I don't know but I am actually getting used to the sound of the dac and its sounding better... After hearing it for about a day straight, swapped it with the PS Audio Perfectwave MK II and it seems like Hugo is on another level... I guess the sound of the Hugo was not what I was used to and rather then being a bad dac, it was more of not feeling comfortable (?) with the sound... After getting used to it a bit, I kind of get what all the rave it about... to sum it up, its probably the most musical dac I have ever heard. Though the soundstage compare to the MK2 is shrinked a bit, it pays you back with intimacy close to the recodoring.
Consiedring it runs on batteries which would save you about $300-$500 for good powercord (I know most of us have one and wouldn't feel the component is complete without one/ me especially) and the portability and the AptX Bluetooth wirelss capability (which actually sounds pretty good), I think its pretty good for the price.
Consiedring it runs on batteries which would save you about $300-$500 for good powercord (I know most of us have one and wouldn't feel the component is complete without one/ me especially) and the portability and the AptX Bluetooth wirelss capability (which actually sounds pretty good), I think its pretty good for the price.
I hope the Primaluna can improve my system overall.. (as it needs it still somewhat).. I can always return it within 15 days, if it dosent suite the Job 225, I will be sending it back and picking up the Job Pre2.
Argh... i cancelled the Primaluna bcuz i was worried about gain issues and ordered the Pre2 and recieved a email today saying they are closed until August 25th.. is there somethin goin on in switzerland? If anyone is selling their Job Pre2, plz PM me.
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RPM-123
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Europeans typically take off the month of August for vacation. Good call on the Primaluna, the gain is indeed too high for the JOB 225.
Thanks CDLehner for that post about preamp vs. Dac w/ linestage. Its one of the reasons why i have decided to let go the Chord Hugo and get Job Pre2 + used Chord QuteHD instead. Like you have noticed in the past, the sound from Hugo was transperent and nice and all, but i myself cant get over the fact that it sounds hollow(?) I guess not full enough..hopefully my new setup surpasses my hugo +job 225.
Does preamp make the most difference in sound?
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f1eng
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If I understand correctly the Hugo has more advanced circuitry than the Qute HD but a less attractive/expensive case. The Hugo can be configured to output line level so unless you are swayed by the better build quality you may well get the best sound by using the Hugo with fixed output into the Pre2...
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other than speakers, definitely.
Qute with LPSU may sound more full bodied.