JOB 225 2-channel Power Amplifier ... update ...

It is not about the speakers but about the job. We have compared the job against our reference SS amp from that price range and the lack of resolution was obvious (still job was better in about 70% of other characteristics but not in resolution). It was repeated in other system but with same two amps... also three set of speakers cables and two sets of RCA were used always with same results.

If you really need to know the speakers were Zingali Home Monitors 2.10+ and Quads 63 so quite different type of speakers and loads.
 
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"lack of resolution"? That's a new one! The Job has plenty, which is why others have not commented about any lack of resolution. If resolution appears lacking, then it is most likely from an an upstream component and/or cabling issue. I guess some people like hyper detailed sound so they tend to match digital amps with speakers that have metal dome tweeters, but I don't find that very listenable. So, what was the system that you found the Job to be lacking in resolution?
 
Job 225 by Goldmund

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The Job has a Hifi Tuning Silverstar fuse in it.

Initial thoughts:

• Very black background. Of course I've been listening to tubes for the last year or so, so that could be exaggerated a bit... But it's VERY quite. Even with the passive's volume all the way up and with the 98db/1w/1m Tekton's there is just a teeny teeny bit of noise when I put my ear to the speaker.

• Very fast and accurate and detailed. The pluck of a bass string, acoustic guitar, or drum kit is immediate. Transients and detail are superb. The instruments have texture. You hear the frets, the wood of the stringed instruments, the brass of a sax... The spit of the sax player. It does all this in a completely non-fatiguing way.

• Extremely neutral and easy to listen too. Vocals sound very natural and real. It is very transparent... I know when the recording is bad or good. The Job doesn't sugar-coat anything...
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Guys it is not important. I think it is great little amp and I hope I will have a chance to test another unit in the future.
 
The Quad 63's have a lack of resolution due to the transformers that are used in them. A bright sounding amp will work better, the Job is not bright. My buddy Rex had those for quite a few years and no tube amp but the NYAL Futterman OTL's sounded good on them. The Quads needs a DD OTL tube amp like Roger Modjeski makes to make them sound really, really good.
 
I did ask Rex about a month ago if he missed his Quad 63's and the NYAL Futtermans over what he owns today. Rex said no way, the sound of the Job and LS50's is what he has looked for all of his life.
 
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Hey that's me! The threads here on AS are what led me to purchase a JOB. I couldn't take it any more reading about it and had to try it for myself. It's a fantastic amp and I won't be selling mine any time soon.

- Woody


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I should note that I did find it just a touch dull on the top end of the frequency range... But I swapped out the Audioquest and WireWorld IC's for solid conductor silver units from Morrow and all the sparkle was there in spades.

Like I said, this amp is VERY revealing and transparent. Swapping cables is very apparent and is a great way to "tune" the JOB to your individual tastes.

- Woody


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ICTWoody said:
I should note that I did find it just a touch dull on the top end of the frequency range... But I swapped out the Audioquest and WireWorld IC's for solid conductor silver units from Morrow and all the sparkle was there in spades.

Like I said, this amp is VERY revealing and transparent. Swapping cables is very apparent and is a great way to "tune" the JOB to your individual tastes.

- Woody
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Cables are very important. The stock power cord is just a throw away, the higher end power cables add to the transparency of the Job. I need another Sweetcord, right now I have one hooked up to my Sony and a Virtue power cord hooked up to the Job.
 
ozarktom said:
Cables are very important. The stock power cord is just a throw away, the higher end power cables add to the transparency of the Job. I need another Sweetcord, right now I have one hooked up to my Sony and a Virtue power cord hooked up to the Job.
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I agree here as well. I haven't tried the Sweetcord yet, I've been using it with a Shunyata Venom 3 I had as a spare and it's a nice improvement over the chepo stock cord. The V3 is a great budget PC... I might try some others down the road, but I'm quite content at the moment.

- Woody


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Got a confirmation the other week JOB coming out with a preamp by Mid-June. Cant wait! I asked them to put me on the list as soon as its available.
 
Just had a quick question. With the JOBs preamp coming around the corner I really think JOB 225 is super transparent. I had the Oppo 105 hooked straight to the JOB 225 recently and today tried the irDAC from Arcam with the Sonos connect and the sound is really different. warmer, more musical and soundstage is alot wider and airier. Although I love the irDAC mids and high and prefer it over the sabre dac on the oppo, (clearly better in my ears) I do miss
the bass of the oppo. It simply had more weight. (just on the bass department)

My question is, with the Job 225 preamp around the corner, can a preamp make the bass tighter and add more weight?

I hooked up both irDAC and oppo straight to the Job 225 when i was doing A/B. Was using oppo as a preamp and now using the Sonos line in to control volume.

Only if the JOBs preamp can add more weight to the bass and make it tighter, id recommend this set up to anyone... I KNOW its not the JOB 225 thats lacking in bass, because I clearly heard diffrence when changing dacs ONLY. Job is just super transparent itll play what you feed it as accurately as possible imho.

Can anyone tell me if the preamp can make the sound different/add more weight to the bass and make it fuller and tighter? (any preamp for that matter)

Thanks!

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It's a tough one to answer short of trying the same setup as yours and having the same set of ears that you have.

I've read some over at AVS Forum and it varies according to the components used (amplifiers directly, and preamplifiers used).
The Oppo 105 will sound differently depending on the partnering mate (input impedance of the preamp and DACs if connected digitally or directly connected to the amp using Oppo's own internal DACs).

Does it make sense?

At the end it is a preference; some like a more pronounced (tighter and more prominent) bass, others go for transparency, clarity. And no two DACs produce the same result.

Me I like spaciousness, wide sound stage, holography, depth of ambiance. ...Balanced bass, in harmony with the rest of the frequencies from the full audio spectrum. ...Tight and together. ...And all smooth of course.
 
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