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I would love to try gryphon again. I have turned quite a few audiophiles into gryphon lovers. I can't wait for the Mephisto EVO.
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I think the Pass XP-32 alone costs as much as the Soulution [emoji3].
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My understanding is it’s not even close!
XP32 17,500 USD (cost all 3 total)
Soulution 530 50,000+ USD
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I think the answer depends a bit on which continent the beholder resides...
- Pass XP-30 30K, pair of XA60.8 20K
- Soulution 530 30K
In Euros of course.
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Excellent point. Eye opening differences. Impossible to assign good/bad value when mixing and matching manufacturers/end users from different continents.
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Excellent point. Eye opening differences. Impossible to assign good/bad value when mixing and matching manufacturers/end users from different continents.
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Can definitely do it this way and obtain great sound as depicted in the video. However, Jay previously had less expensive speakers and more expensive electronics, and I think it may have sounded even better. However, my basis is yt videos vs the real experience from Jay - would be great to get his opinion on this - perhaps in another video
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Coming soon !
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Thank you
thezaks ( Dave )i agree with you , and thats actually a hard thing when one looks to do an upgrade should one choose speakers first and then later on amplification or the other way around i think there is probably no easy answer to that question , hence my ! as i would not be sure which to do first.
i think there is probably no easy answer to that question , hence my ! as i would not be sure which to do first.
johnthomas
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That was an awesome you tube video, I learned a lot about Pass Labs. Mike's and Jay's knowledge, actual hands on experience and website/you tube video's help me immensely build my system. Keep up the great work.
knghifi
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I would upgrade both speaker and amp the same time. Amp is dependent on speaker efficiency. Follows with sources dependent on amp input impedance.thezaks ( Dave )i agree with you , and thats actually a hard thing when one looks to do an upgrade should one choose speakers first and then later on amplification or the other way around
knghifi , yes that would of course be the best , but i at least do not have that amount of money to do both at the same time. And for now i am just starting to slowly think and learn more. My next big step up will be upgrading my Lumin T1 to an X1 , if all goes well i will orde it at the end of April.
knghifi
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FDPDK,
I hear ya, unfortunately most have a limited budget for toys.
Most times, there's a logical upgrade order. Many many moons ago I had Eggleston Andra II and Krell FPB600. Got exposed to Graaf OTL, EAR, Avantgarde .... so wanted Avantgarde with tube amp. Can't afford both so logical upgrade order was buy Avantgarde speakers and drive them with Krell until I can afford a tube amp. After ~2 years later, I replaced Krell with tube amp. Actually the Krell combination was very good.
The reverse order not going to work. Very few tube amps can drive Andra's properly so basically no system until I could afford the Avantgarde.
I hear ya, unfortunately most have a limited budget for toys.
Most times, there's a logical upgrade order. Many many moons ago I had Eggleston Andra II and Krell FPB600. Got exposed to Graaf OTL, EAR, Avantgarde .... so wanted Avantgarde with tube amp. Can't afford both so logical upgrade order was buy Avantgarde speakers and drive them with Krell until I can afford a tube amp. After ~2 years later, I replaced Krell with tube amp. Actually the Krell combination was very good.
The reverse order not going to work. Very few tube amps can drive Andra's properly so basically no system until I could afford the Avantgarde.
Jay's Audio Lab
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If you want to get serious, add the Boulder 2160 or Soulution 711 stereo amp. The Magico M6’s deserve nothing less in my opinion.
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Thats like me telling you if you want to get serious then begin to buy m6 because your select 2 dac deserves nothing less...
You might want to take a look at all my videos... I've been through many components... Im only having fun now and enjoying the journey. Not in a rush to go buy the ultra high end components I've already been through. I'm in a exploratory phase right now simply taking my time and enjoying the "bus ride" without thinking about the destination.
You might want to take a look at all my videos... I've been through many components... Im only having fun now and enjoying the journey. Not in a rush to go buy the ultra high end components I've already been through. I'm in a exploratory phase right now simply taking my time and enjoying the "bus ride" without thinking about the destination.
I wouldn't even think to put any of those electronics on my radar if I had M6. But, if it has worked there must have been some educated guessing going on there.
I believe Jay posted in a previous video. Is it "better" to have "tier 1"speakers and mid-fi electronics?
Or tier 1 electronics and mid-fi speakers?
I think part of his journey is taking us through electronics (amps) until he reaches his pinnacle.
The videos will illustrate as others have mentioned here that the M6 is so brutally revealing of every upstream change. For better or worse.
IMHO (and others here too probably) No matter if you have Soulution electronics.
A lower end speaker will never be able to give you the output that those electronics and respective front end changes.
Of course, the fun is finding system synergy to meet your taste and budget.
Or tier 1 electronics and mid-fi speakers?
I think part of his journey is taking us through electronics (amps) until he reaches his pinnacle.
The videos will illustrate as others have mentioned here that the M6 is so brutally revealing of every upstream change. For better or worse.
IMHO (and others here too probably) No matter if you have Soulution electronics.
A lower end speaker will never be able to give you the output that those electronics and respective front end changes.
Of course, the fun is finding system synergy to meet your taste and budget.