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I'm a big Mc fan, but regarding measurements for Mc, we don't really know because Mcintosh doesn't publish specs and Mc products rarely get reviewed these days.

His point is that you cannot go by measurements alone. The final deciding factor has to be actual listening.
 
Mike said:
His point is that you cannot go by measurements alone. The final deciding factor has to be actual listening.
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There's only one problem with "actual listening". Everyone hears differently and prioritizes differently. One wants perfect tonality, another wants imaging, another dimensionality, another warmth and naturaleness, another detail, another slam and dynamics, etc. TAS loves to say "we judge against the actual sound of real music" but if that is the case why do so many statement class A SOTA products sound so damn different from one another? Everything is about different degrees of flavoring and the designing and voicing engineer's preferences and beliefs.

That's why you have to listen for yourself, in your own system, with your own music. But then again, I believe we all already know this and I'm not saying anything new to anyone here. Even those measurement freak uber engineers can tell if something doesn't "sound" right. They might go about diagnosing it with a multi-meter instead of a typical subjectivist approach, but that's cool too.
 
I agree Bob. We must LISTEN in our own room. Measurements should only be used to guide the engineer, but to build something without listening to it, would be foolish.

A friend of mine builds speakers and he wanted them to measure perfectly flat (that was his goal). He got there. Guess what? It didn't sound so good.

The human ear has to be the final arbiter. If it is not, then let's just buy our gear based on specs alone. Lets not test drive our cars before buying them either.

I have nothing against specs and measurements - the more the better I say, my issue is those that say something must be good or bad based on specs alone. I do look at specs when I buy a piece (if available), but only out of curiosity.

I'll say this much, I sure would have liked a few more specs and charts for speakers I bought earlier this year - they would have revealed a sizable mid bass bump between 40-140hz.
 
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A friend of mine builds speakers and he wanted them to measure perfectly flat (that was his goal). He got there. Guess what? It didn't sound so good.
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So Mike, his 'room' is an anechoic chamber ? for anything else I doubt very much it is possible (20-20k)
 
Please excuse me folks for the small interruption here.

After some consideration because of few complaints about me starting controversy with this thread I took the decision to not post anymore at AudioShark.
Some people see bad in me, and anything they don't like about me would be a great reason to complaint about and express their personal hatred; by complaining to the administration.

I simply posted an old link from a 2000 article, but to some people it is simply sacrilege or similar.
So let's give them way of passage and forget about all the rest.

No explanation needed, your judgement is final. And it don't matter at all what others think about if it is suitable older material or not.
What matters is you who think that it is not suitable, period!
Your wish came through. :)

Sorry again, and all my love to the ones who respect and appreciate me for the true good that is in me.
 
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