How to get the best potential out of my system

Lars and Lloyd Walker seem to share some opinions (from the TAS interview with Mr. Walker):

"An understanding of how a music signal is picked up and progresses through the system to the speakers is vital to getting great sound because a person then knows where potential exists for hurting or improving the sound. Great sound is the result of small, incremental steps that add up to getting the absolute best from a system."

I'm an enthusiast who does not pretend to understand how the signal is picked up and progresses through a system, so I rely on people like Lars and Michael to help me improve mine. Also, the fact that they have heard so many different systems in so many rooms over the years makes me confident that they can help me get the best sound by using their products and taking their advice.

Others, like Mike Bovaird, and probably many of you, are more DIY people, which I completely respect but could not duplicate.
 
Absolare said:
Nope:) It would apply to anyone that is installing regular components. If Lars explains then you will see that it will pertain to the exact system that you now have, regardless of what components and speakers that it is made up of.....promise!
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I'm all for it then and look forward to him doing it in video form so everyone can learn. (I just personally hope it doesn't involve cables). ~Eric
 
MusicDirector said:
I'm all for it then and look forward to him doing it in video form so everyone can learn. (I just personally hope it doesn't involve cables). ~Eric
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Dear Eric,

First of all the electrical grounding how would you do that without cables, there is no other way... The cable loom is the only way of getting electrical grounding.. Even we like it or not... But that is only a part of the electrical grounding, to this you have to have dedicated grounding to your system and also you have to take care of your distribution of the ground.. So it is why we found that the heart of the system is your distribution of both ground and power... So yes to make this happen you have to look carefully into the cable loom. But there is much more to take care about...
Kind regards
 
Raidho said:
Dear Eric,

First of all the electrical grounding how would you do that without cables, there is no other way... The cable loom is the only way of getting electrical grounding.. Even we like it or not... But that is only a part of the electrical grounding, to this you have to have dedicated grounding to your system and also you have to take care of your distribution of the ground.. So it is why we found that the heart of the system is your distribution of both ground and power... So yes to make this happen you have to look carefully into the cable loom. But there is much more to take care about...
Kind regards
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I don't discuss cables much less like using them. I'm still working on a wireless system so I no longer have to be told the assumption that my system must sound like barf because I'm not using $2300 cables with $1000 cable lifts. Either my system sounds fine or I like crappy sound quality, one of the two anyway.:) I don't detect any issues regarding grounding with my systems. Then again I'm running a Panamax power conditioner/surge protector in my daily driver system and a remote control Belkin protector in my vintage system. I figure if there are any ground issues I'd need to have the whole place re-wired. If you do a video I still will watch because there may be some good tips and what not. (Provided I still have internet at the time) ~Eric
 
Raidho said:
Cause of my job traveling around the world, I don't no how many times in the last 40 years, you start to have a few ideas what works beautiful and what doesn't.. Both Michael and I most of the time have to setup systems in the most strange and really bad sounding rooms... You as costumers always will measure the quality of our performance... When you like the sound in our room, you will say, wow what great speakers these guys make, but when the same speaker with the same electronics sound bad, you will say... Why are people spending so much money on such bad speakers...
Life is not easy for a speaker manufacture. :)
The difference in the performance you most of time will get when you are working with the tools you have available... Tools wich makes much better electrical and mechanical grounding..
Most people are always talking about powerful electronics as a must have... We don't we are always talking about the quality and not quantity.
Do I prefer a small integrated amp and a nice small cd-player where you have the best grounding, compared to a very expensive setup with bad grounding?
Absolutly yes... That is the way we are setting up our system in our own demo room at Raidho... But I also do the same at home and in our summer house..
Do we hate big amps, not at all... But with out good electrical and mechanical grounding these big amps even the best of them don't work and then we start to have problems.. Too much is as Michael says, are sticking out...
All our speakers can sound wunderful with even very small amps.. We have even tryed to play our Raidho C-4.1 with a single ended 30 watts amp... Sounding fantastic... Could I live with a system like this... Absolutely .... Yeah man... :woot:
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Mike, don't read this.....:rofl:
 
MusicDirector said:
I don't discuss cables much less like using them.... I don't detect any issues regarding grounding with my systems....
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I was also agnostic on cables, although never an "unbeliever" given all the people whose opinions I respect and who swear up and down that they make a difference. But when Lars used some of his products in my system, I heard a clear and substantial improvement. And my cables are very good for the money, Supra from Sweden, products that are consistently rated "best buys" in Europe, although unknown in the U.S.

I'm a big believer in making up one's own mind through listening tests, and if you don't hear differences that you feel are worth the price, you will definitely save yourself some money. But if you have the chance to hear a demo by Lars or someone else who carries the Ansuz line, I highly recommend giving the products a listen.
 
VT Skier said:
I was also agnostic on cables, although never an "unbeliever" given all the people whose opinions I respect and who swear up and down that they make a difference. But when Lars used some of his products in my system, I heard a clear and substantial improvement. And my cables are very good for the money, Supra from Sweden, products that are consistently rated "best buys" in Europe, although unknown in the U.S.

I'm a big believer in making up one's own mind through listening tests, and if you don't hear differences that you feel are worth the price, you will definitely save yourself some money. But if you have the chance to hear a demo by Lars or someone else who carries the Ansuz line, I highly recommend giving the products a listen.
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Sorry, I just don't buy into the whole cable thing. A $1 cable is the same as a $1000 cable. If the gear is faulty in some way or the source is poor quality or the room has bad acoustics, no amount of cables of any brand or cost will make any difference or correct it. My personal believe is that cables don't matter one bit and make zero difference unless your getting RF interference or something I'll go to the grave with that belief. I have tried some expensive interconnects and they were noisy as hell and not as good and well made as the far less expensive ones I currently use (not because I want to, I want a completely wireless system).
If anyone else wants to believe otherwise and spend tons of money on cables, then I say go for it, knock yourself out. My policy is I don't get into cable discussions (save this one only to state that I don't and I did not know it was about cables), don't advise anyone on them and don't even look at them anywhere. Not only am I a diehard agnostic on cables that will never change, but I have a real distaste for them. That is all I'm saying on this and it is solely my opinion and personal preference. I will not discuss it any further as it is pointless, is it not?
 
I don't think the idea to make videos about grounding will work, because what I will love is to exchange experience. And how can you on a video get the feeling about the change in performance. Michael is right now in UK for a High End Show... But next week when he is back, we will talk about the possibilities to arrange a number of workshops, maybe first on the East Coast and maybe later on the West Coast..

Regarding cables I am not here to sell anyone the idea to buy cables either expensive or cheap..

But I do have a small story to tell you.

For a few years ago I did a demo on Nordost power cables at the Bristol Show.
in the beginning of a demo there was a guy who said that power chords did not make any difference to the sound... And I asked him if was 100% sure about and he say yes..
then I played a piece of music for 20 sec. And the I pulled the power cable out of the CD player. And of cause there was not sound anymore... Then I asked him, what do you think now? We both start laughing? Of cause no power no sound :D
 
MusicDirector said:
Sorry, I just don't buy into the whole cable thing. A $1 cable is the same as a $1000 cable. If the gear is faulty in some way or the source is poor quality or the room has bad acoustics, no amount of cables of any brand or cost will make any difference or correct it. My personal believe is that cables don't matter one bit and make zero difference unless your getting RF interference or something I'll go to the grave with that belief. I have tried some expensive interconnects and they were noisy as hell and not as good and well made as the far less expensive ones I currently use (not because I want to, I want a completely wireless system).
If anyone else wants to believe otherwise and spend tons of money on cables, then I say go for it, knock yourself out. My policy is I don't get into cable discussions (save this one only to state that I don't and I did not know it was about cables), don't advise anyone on them and don't even look at them anywhere. Not only am I a diehard agnostic on cables that will never change, but I have a real distaste for them. That is all I'm saying on this and it is solely my opinion and personal preference. I will not discuss it any further as it is pointless, is it not?
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Raidho said:
But I do have a small story to tell you.

For a few years ago I did a demo on Nordost power cables at the Bristol Show.
in the beginning of a demo there was a guy who said that power chords did not make any difference to the sound... And I asked him if was 100% sure about and he say yes..
then I played a piece of music for 20 sec. And the I pulled the power cable out of the CD player. And of cause there was not sound anymore... Then I asked him, what do you think now? We both start laughing? Of cause no power no sound :D
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Now there's a whole new meaning to the phrase "CD quiet".:D
 
Raidho said:
Both my partner Michael and I often getting the same questions like: what is the best amp, cables, racks etc... for your Raidho speakers?

Is there any interest in making a workshop, where we all are helping each other to get the best possible potential out of our music systems??

Our idea is that we could arrange this event by a dealer in US, or maybe by several dealers?? it was only a suggestion:D

Of cause is not only about getting the best out of your Raidho speakers, but any speaker or system..

We both believe that the electrical and mechanical grounding of your system often is more important than your choice of electronics.

Kind regards
Lars
Raidho Acoustics
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I smiled when I read this because I know this is absolutely true.
 
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