Dguitarnut
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How about the Cadillac Xt5 /XT6 SUV’s .....they get excellent mpgs plus it will be in the same family as your Corvette! They ride nice and the majority are owned by the over 65 crowd. :snicker:
Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
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BlueFox
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Well, that means the drivers are probably sedate, and the vehicle should be in good shape when resold.
Big B
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I'm on my second pilot. I recommend, reliability has been great, good GPS, ride and size is good for me, I do agree with the statement above; they are still good but not as good as they were in the past.
As far as the VW I owned a Passat I learned the hard way the idea there is some reliability or customer service is bunk in my book, I don't recommend.
Something you may want to try if you use the third row of seats a lot. Try third row out. Getting there and headroom.This might be an area the new design of the Pilot may suffer.
The other vehicle I'm looking at is the Lincoln.
Those days gone mike
on the contrary, I’m sure 95% of new vehicles will go 10 years / 200k miles on the original engine and drivetrain, and very likely twice that. Don’t be put off by the fact that the other 5% is what you hear about.
ask a dealer service department (or even a specialty independent repair shop) what their experience is. There is a reason that they keep adding items onto the “routine” maintenance; they’d be broke if all they did was fix problems.
GSOphile
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I was talking to an independent who services European cars (I own a 16-year old BMW 3 Series) about personnel. He said that the local BMW dealer had let his two BMW Certified Master Mechanics go, but that this was not just a one-off. Said this practice has been prevalent in the industry across brands. This from a guy I know well (20 years) and trust.
Is the context of your statement that cars are indeed more reliable than before? If so, I agree and right vehicle will certainly last 10 years and 200k easy. As long as its properly maintained etc.
Sure, there are exceptions to the rule but, in general modern cars will last provided you take care of them.
GSOphile
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My primary concern about the reliability of the newer models is with the rush to 4-cylinder turbo charged engine technology in place of naturally aspirated 6s. Sure, they get better gas mileage, but the associated heat, stress, and transmission complexity are going to take a toll.
puroagave
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I'm not surprised they're laying off mechanics. 77% of BMWs are leased for 2-3 years and few go back into circulation as CPOs. Most are auctioned off by finance cos. at places like Manheim in So California where they're sold to buyers outside the US, mostly Asian and Middle Eastern countries. A few of my clients are in this business and ship hundreds of used cars a month (mostly European, Lexus/Infinity) out of the Port of LA.
GSOphile
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I was trying to make two points:
1- Not just laying off mechanics, but their best, highest paid mechanics.
2- Not just BMW dealerships but across the industry (he had hired one of BMW's best).
a.wayne
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Whats really crazy is the grand Cherokee is almost as good too ..!
a.wayne
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Mike wants 10yrs/200K miles , yes he really believes he can ....
I’m hoping we can get that kind of longevity, yes.
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Leatherneck
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We drove a Mercedes 300E for 22 years all over North America and my wife drove her 190D for 17. I maintained them both.
Big B
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With technology moving so rapidly I'm so sure I want to keep a car that long. In 5 years time transportation should change substantially.
I would think a reasonable goal is to buy a car now that will last you until you can buy an electric car that will meet all your needs (by car I mean personal vehicle; SUV, pickup, whatever). And I would really suggest giving the Kia Telluride strong consideration.
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Over the Hyundai equivalent?
Shadowfax
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After driving my Santa Fe since last October, I can say it is reliable, comfortable, roomy, decent sound, NAV screen and prompts are good. I get 24mpg in red lights and 30-32 on any stretch without lights. Putting the Hyundai roof racks on cost 2-3mpg so I took them off till I really need to use them and they are simple to put on.
We do have one serious issue with the passenger side air bag. The sensor is not just weight, it is the depression in the seat from your ass cheeks. As soon as you place a blanket or seat pad between your ass and the seat, you no longer have an air bag available. I have been trying tons of experiments with no luck.
The stop and go can be defeated with a push button as you click in your seat belt but I seem to drive and come to stops in such a way it rarely kicks in.
The Heads Up Display is priceless along with all the alerts and safety features. The heated steering wheel and back seats won't matter much to you Floridians, but the Air Conditioned front seats are awesome.
The new Palisade was not out yet when I got the Santa Fe but if bigger than the SF is needed, I would not hesitate now after owning one.
all good to know Brian, thanks !
as for the question of the Caddy XT6, nothing but an overpriced Chevy. Cadillac is but a ship at sea without a rudder right now. As for an American product that is clearly superior to the XT6 at the moment, Lincoln Aviator.
as for the question of the Caddy XT6, nothing but an overpriced Chevy. Cadillac is but a ship at sea without a rudder right now. As for an American product that is clearly superior to the XT6 at the moment, Lincoln Aviator.