Gryphon Mojo S Review

Excellent Alex! These are the baffle, curved tweeter section and hex thing behind the tweeter. Much look forward to hearing your thoughts. The Mojo is really stunning for getting every piece of information out of the recording. It’s very fast and totally changes the timing of sounds compared to Contour. In a good way. Very true to a live performance with no frequency hikes for added but fake performance. The bass also incredible for its size. But I find that unless I play a little louder it can sound a bit boxey. Not as big a stage as Contour. Maybe because Mojo isn’t fully broken in - maybe 40hrs so far. Or because it is a small box and not a big floorstander. Still outperforms it’s size though. And the materialisation is so strong it can still be a little fatiguing in long sessions. Confidence isn’t like that but I fear it won’t have the same speed as Mojo. Contours overhang on notes is quite beautiful but lacks dynamism in music that should excite. Confidence brings the musicians into the room more. I guess if I really want to know I need to get the 30’s back in for another demo. What I would love to know from you is difference between 30 and 50. I could maybe stretch to 50 if there was more resolution in the lower frequencies. I found the 30 a bit too light in this area. The 50 is just a few hz lower than 30 and I’m surprised the cabinet is slimmer - but taller. Main question is does the 50 give more body than the 30? Thanks!!
 
Hi Ian, how is Mojo?
Are there any changes in the sound?


Dynaudio Confidence 50 and 60 I liked more than 30!
30 gave a clamped sound and did not show volume at low frequencies. There was also no sound volume in female and male vocals. Perhaps the whole thing is in amplifiers (Sim Audio), which did not fit specifically to the 30 model. At the same time, the tandem with 50 and 60 was great! In my opinion, it makes sense to buy 50. This is a high-level speaker for many years!
 
Hi Alex, thanks so much for those excellent observations. I thought the 50 might be more serious. Mojo has opened out. Until yesterday though I thought the highs a bit too hot. Then had idea to reduce volume from my dac from -4db to -10db. Problem solved and soundstage much more expansive. These perform miracles for their size. I think I’m going to go for them! Where can I see your videos?

I find the Mojo bass is more realistic of a live performance and 'present' than in the 30's. Does it have more presence in the 50? Or does it, again, give way to the midrange?
 
Hi Ian!
Sorry for late answer.
I also do audio journalism in Russia. Therefore, before I had time to come from Denmark, I was already at a conference dedicated to the seventieth anniversary of the Mcintosh company). Where, by the way, the company Sonus Faber has introduced an updated line of speakers Olympica Nova! The sound of which I did not like at all)))
I'm glad Mojo opened up!
Confidence 50 has a very deep and thick bass. But for the sound to be at a high level, the room must fit the size of the speakers. I myself do not really like powerful bass, I more like high-quality bass. Correct and well structured. Even if it will not be too powerful. And I think that Confidence 50 is still more universal. Both for cinema and for music. But this is just my opinion!


I’ll finish the video on the Dynaudio factory soon. And publish in the section where all the events in the world of audio.
Alex


eagle3333 said:
Hi Alex, thanks so much for those excellent observations. I thought the 50 might be more serious. Mojo has opened out. Until yesterday though I thought the highs a bit too hot. Then had idea to reduce volume from my dac from -4db to -10db. Problem solved and soundstage much more expansive. These perform miracles for their size. I think I’m going to go for them! Where can I see your videos?

I find the Mojo bass is more realistic of a live performance and 'present' than in the 30's. Does it have more presence in the 50? Or does it, again, give way to the midrange?
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Hi Alex, interesting SF using string cords in the front like Gryphon! Have they always done that? Very cool that you get to these events and see all the latest kit.

I'm not sure about Mojo. I think I'm struggling with the AMT tweeter; just sounds a bit harsh and soundstage still a bit compressed. I've put the -.5db resistors in and they have helped quite a bit. Maybe they need a lot more run-in. Maybe I'm so used to the Contour 60 huge stage I'm expecting too much.

My room is 12' wide 24' long 8' high. Speakers are 5' off the short wall and I sit 6' from rear wall. Is the space too small for 50? The Contour 60 just about works without too much bass boom but I expect the Confidence bass to be much better controlled. That Esotar 3 is more 'gentle' than the AMT is right now.
 
Hi Ian!
I read somewhere that the Gryphon bought this idea from Sonus Faber.
Originally it was an Italian design idea.

Basically, your room is quite suitable for Confidence 50.
The main thing is how it is processed acoustically!

AMT is a little hard twitter. But at the same time he is very airy, musical and detailed.
I really like this sound at high frequencies.
Have you made any decision on Mojo?
Alex

P.S. Here by the way the reporting of Dynaudio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uarOK6-I66o&t=1s



eagle3333 said:
Hi Alex, interesting SF using string cords in the front like Gryphon! Have they always done that? Very cool that you get to these events and see all the latest kit.

I'm not sure about Mojo. I think I'm struggling with the AMT tweeter; just sounds a bit harsh and soundstage still a bit compressed. I've put the -.5db resistors in and they have helped quite a bit. Maybe they need a lot more run-in. Maybe I'm so used to the Contour 60 huge stage I'm expecting too much.

My room is 12' wide 24' long 8' high. Speakers are 5' off the short wall and I sit 6' from rear wall. Is the space too small for 50? The Contour 60 just about works without too much bass boom but I expect the Confidence bass to be much better controlled. That Esotar 3 is more 'gentle' than the AMT is right now.
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Hi Alex, thanks and for the link. Great film! I’m a photographer and just getting into video. This is really nicely shot and put together. Look forward to no.2!

On your advice I got some Argento Serenity and it’s like a different speaker compared to the sound with the Naim cable; or Audioquest. Huge soundstage, very airy, very emotionally engaging. Almost euphoric. And no more brittle edges. But there is less detail and less separation of instruments. In some passages where the silver cable tells me exactly what is playing, the Argento is less informative; less defined. I don’t hear all the instruments but the overall sound is more melodic. I’d really like to have both! Will try some Jorma Unity cable and AQ Thunderbird. I’ve decided the 50 is out of reach but wonder if the Confidence 30 might better the Mojo?
 
Hi Ian!
Thank you for your kind words!
I also do photography.
My first education is a cameraman.


Have you tested Serenity with Mojo?
In principle, this cable should not hide details in music. It is considered to be both detailed and melodic.


Confidence 30 should be brought to our salon next week.
I will listen to them carefully. It's hard for me to say better Mojo or better Confidence 30.
I need to listen carefully to them together.
Confidence 30 is completely different. Another twitter, another "character" in the music.

Dynaudio. No2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjQiTkChc-Q&t=1s


eagle3333 said:
Hi Alex, thanks and for the link. Great film! I’m a photographer and just getting into video. This is really nicely shot and put together. Look forward to no.2!

On your advice I got some Argento Serenity and it’s like a different speaker compared to the sound with the Naim cable; or Audioquest. Huge soundstage, very airy, very emotionally engaging. Almost euphoric. And no more brittle edges. But there is less detail and less separation of instruments. In some passages where the silver cable tells me exactly what is playing, the Argento is less informative; less defined. I don’t hear all the instruments but the overall sound is more melodic. I’d really like to have both! Will try some Jorma Unity cable and AQ Thunderbird. I’ve decided the 50 is out of reach but wonder if the Confidence 30 might better the Mojo?
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Hi Alex - another great video. Excellent insight into Dynaudio. Maybe you should do same with Gryphon?!

Yes, after a while I came to much appreciate what Serenity did with the Mojo. It gave great smoothness, refinement and body to the sound It played very well at low volume; but became a little too 'thick' at higher volume. When I put the Naim cable back in it sounded more airy, neutral, faster but not quite so emotive. The greatest difference was soundstage with Serenity = huge; with Naim cable it shrank too small. What I really need is something right in the middle Naim's airiness and attack and Serenity's soundstage. This week I test AQ Thunderbird and Jorma.

Look forward to the 30 report. They'd have to be very, very good to push out the Mojo. I do wonder whether the 3-way design would enable greater coherence compared to Mojo's 2-way.




TechnicalPie said:
Hi Ian!
Thank you for your kind words!
I also do photography.
My first education is a cameraman.


Have you tested Serenity with Mojo?
In principle, this cable should not hide details in music. It is considered to be both detailed and melodic.


Confidence 30 should be brought to our salon next week.
I will listen to them carefully. It's hard for me to say better Mojo or better Confidence 30.
I need to listen carefully to them together.
Confidence 30 is completely different. Another twitter, another "character" in the music.

Dynaudio. No2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjQiTkChc-Q&t=1s
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Hi Ian!
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Soon I’m going to the Kharma Audio factory!
To the town of Breda, the Netherlands!
You guessed it ... the tour to the Gryphon Audio Design is scheduled for early next year)

I know the cables from Jorma well.
I often listened to them with Marten Audio speakers.
But I don’t know how they will play with Gryphon Mojo.


In this competition, I bet on AQ)


Next week I am going to an exhibition in Warsaw.
After that I will write about the Confidence 30 tests!
Alex


P.S. Subscribe to my channel on YouTube) There are many interesting things)



eagle3333 said:
Hi Alex - another great video. Excellent insight into Dynaudio. Maybe you should do same with Gryphon?!

Yes, after a while I came to much appreciate what Serenity did with the Mojo. It gave great smoothness, refinement and body to the sound It played very well at low volume; but became a little too 'thick' at higher volume. When I put the Naim cable back in it sounded more airy, neutral, faster but not quite so emotive. The greatest difference was soundstage with Serenity = huge; with Naim cable it shrank too small. What I really need is something right in the middle Naim's airiness and attack and Serenity's soundstage. This week I test AQ Thunderbird and Jorma.

Look forward to the 30 report. They'd have to be very, very good to push out the Mojo. I do wonder whether the 3-way design would enable greater coherence compared to Mojo's 2-way.
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Hi Alex,

Another very nicely recorded video and I've now subscribed to your channel.

I'm still waiting for the AQ and Jorma. Next week, I think. I'll let you know what happens. I also think the new Essence amplification will give me the slightly softer edges I seek - Class A power. Look forward to hearing that next year. Perhaps you'll hear it at a show soon? Your video has got me thinking back to Pantheon for the bigger soundstage/extension/coherence, but at 12 feet wide, my room is just not quite wide enough, I think. If I move house, perhaps...

Enjoy Kharma!




TechnicalPie said:
Hi Ian!
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Soon I’m going to the Kharma Audio factory!
To the town of Breda, the Netherlands!
You guessed it ... the tour to the Gryphon Audio Design is scheduled for early next year)

I know the cables from Jorma well.
I often listened to them with Marten Audio speakers.
But I don’t know how they will play with Gryphon Mojo.


In this competition, I bet on AQ)


Next week I am going to an exhibition in Warsaw.
After that I will write about the Confidence 30 tests!
Alex


P.S. Subscribe to my channel on YouTube) There are many interesting things)
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eagle3333 said:
..oh - and I notice those 30's have subs in that picture! I'd rather buy 60's than a pair of top-end subs!
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With subs you can EQ and control the bass in the room. You can’t with the 60’s. Audiophiles aversion to subs is astonishing.

There is a reason the leading speaker manufacturers also make subs. It’s not for a deficiency in their speakers, it’s for a complete listening experience and control over the most difficult thing in a room: the bass.


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Thanks for the comment, Mike. My remark comes from 1) a level of some ignorance and 2) a wish to minimise eqpt. I agree about 'control' re: bass.


Mike said:
With subs you can EQ and control the bass in the room. You can’t with the 60’s. Audiophiles aversion to subs is astonishing.

There is a reason the leading speaker manufacturers also make subs. It’s not for a deficiency in their speakers, it’s for a complete listening experience and control over the most difficult thing in a room: the bass.


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Thanks!
I remember when, in 2016, Rune introduced the new Mojo.
I recorded the video then)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xApNG6MuqC8&t=2s

eagle3333 said:
Hi Alex,

Another very nicely recorded video and I've now subscribed to your channel.

I'm still waiting for the AQ and Jorma. Next week, I think. I'll let you know what happens. I also think the new Essence amplification will give me the slightly softer edges I seek - Class A power. Look forward to hearing that next year. Perhaps you'll hear it at a show soon? Your video has got me thinking back to Pantheon for the bigger soundstage/extension/coherence, but at 12 feet wide, my room is just not quite wide enough, I think. If I move house, perhaps...

Enjoy Kharma!
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Too much, Alex! I wish I could have the Pantheons here. 12 feet just isn't quite wide enough for them and they dominate my lounge too much. Wonderful sound; great video and SQ again.

I have finished demoing Confidence 30 and Mojo side by side. Very interesting. The 30's are a really superb speaker. With Gryphon amplification I want Dyn' for classical and jazz and Mojo for everything else. So it's a really tough choice which to finally buy. The 30's convey size of space much more than Mojo and have a super smooth, refined sound; big stage. Glorious on string instruments. But the lower mid range and bass is slow and overhangs a bit - just like it does on my Contour 60's. This is perfect for, let's say, 'fast' amplification like Naim, but too sleepy with Gryphon. Mojo much faster, more slam, snap and dynamics; better on string and guitar instruments than Dyn. Slightly smaller stage but more air, less 'thickness' than Dyn. Dyn has no heat at top of treble; Mojo does - which I don't like. Cables are probably the answer. They won't speed-up the Dyns but they will give the Mojo more stage size and take some heat off the highest frequency. This is all I need to make Mojo perfect. The Argento Serenity achieved this but with a little too much thickness. I'm trying to get some Flow to try. No one seems to be able to supply Gryphon's VIP - which is probably the final solution, but at big price.
 
eagle3333 said:
Too much, Alex! I wish I could have the Pantheons here. 12 feet just isn't quite wide enough for them and they dominate my lounge too much. Wonderful sound; great video and SQ again.

I have finished demoing Confidence 30 and Mojo side by side. Very interesting. The 30's are a really superb speaker. With Gryphon amplification I want Dyn' for classical and jazz and Mojo for everything else. So it's a really tough choice which to finally buy. The 30's convey size of space much more than Mojo and have a super smooth, refined sound; big stage. Glorious on string instruments. But the lower mid range and bass is slow and overhangs a bit - just like it does on my Contour 60's. This is perfect for, let's say, 'fast' amplification like Naim, but too sleepy with Gryphon. Mojo much faster, more slam, snap and dynamics; better on string and guitar instruments than Dyn. Slightly smaller stage but more air, less 'thickness' than Dyn. Dyn has no heat at top of treble; Mojo does - which I don't like. Cables are probably the answer. They won't speed-up the Dyns but they will give the Mojo more stage size and take some heat off the highest frequency. This is all I need to make Mojo perfect. The Argento Serenity achieved this but with a little too much thickness. I'm trying to get some Flow to try. No one seems to be able to supply Gryphon's VIP - which is probably the final solution, but at big price.
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Is that even a fair comparison? The Mojo S’s are $30,000 here. Aren’t the 30’s $20K? Price aside, how would you compare the bass? The Mojo S is a nice little speaker, but for $20K more, you get into a completely different league with the Pantheon.
 
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